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The fattest ski in the Volkl lineup, the Kuro Alpine Ski, craves large portions of the deepest, lightest powder on the planet, while its ELP Rocker rips up the lower mountain on the way back to the tram. With girth that makes your mamma look like a runway model, the Kuro floats like a cork on nipple-deep powder. The Extended Low Profile rocker also adds floatability with a gradual bend throughout the ski, which when tipped on edge achieves better contact with groomed snow, enabling better control and performance than any other ski with similar dimensions. With a multi-layer wood core, three different layers of flex provide stability to the front for charging and transition the power to the softer tail for effortlessly arching and smearing turns.
Bottom Line:
Charge the deepest of the deep, without chatter on the cat track.
If I wanted a ski for deep powder, trees, back country, chutes,
If I wanted a ski for deep powder, trees, back country, chutes, and bowls would I prefer this (for float, stiffness, etc...) or a bent chetler/salomon rocker 2 (more nimble for trees)? I am not worried about the performance on groomers just deep powder and what I have listed.
By far the best ski ever made. This is the only ski I have skied on this entire season...they eat up everything you can throw at it. Too many people are afraid of its width but Volk has made something very special here that more people would/should enjoy. I have 185cm with Duke bindings and I take them everywhere in the backcountry and love them snowkiting too. Next year I'm up-grading to 195's...you can go bigger with a full rockered ski...helps with landing cliff drops. This is much much more than a powder ski...it will do 98% of everything you can ski on the mountain. My partners and I own Fall Line Kiteboarding and everyone on our snowkite staff and team is going to ride them next year.
That is the only bad thing about these skis. I take solar EZ and fill in the nicks and sand them down so the core doesn't get wet. I'm not sure of a solution for this problem but it's not just these skis that have this problem. I've had three pair of k2 skis top sheet completely delaminate within a few months of skiing on them, yet K2 made every excuse not to honor their warranty. I didn't think the nicks on the kuros were significant enough to contact Volkl. I ordered the 195's this year, so we'll see how they hold up.
I have the 08-09 version in 185 (natural wood grain color). Very happy with the ski-ability of this ski. I'm a full time patroller, and had these with me on a 9 day cat trip in the south chilcotins. The only thing I wasnt' crazy about was the topsheet construction, chipping, etc etc. I too am thinking about 195's for next year. I'm wondering if there have been any improvements with the topsheets you have on your later model. Normally, I wouldn't care, but they seem soooo soft?
I love this ski. It is amazing. There is no speed limit. It is the most stable ski I have ever skied on. The huge tip create a hydro-plainning feeling. The tapered tail acts like a brake. All you have to do is lean back a little bit to slow down. You would think these skis would be miserable on groomers, but they are actually a blast as long as you are ok going super fast. It is hard to get the ski to roll over at slow speeds, but as soon as you hit mock-chicken, they are responsive and playful. It's definitely not a ski for your mom. This is a ski for someone who wants to challenge the limits of speed. It's so much fun!
Jess, may I ask which binding you have? I just purchased a pair of these and trying to determine which binding to use. Looking at the Jester Schizo 16. Thank you.
I want to buy these ski's. However, I need help! What kind
I want to buy these ski's. However, I need help! What kind of bindings can I mount on them? I want to mount BD Diamir Fritchi bindings on them. However these skis are so wide at the underfoot, they don't make a brake that wide. What can I do? Are there custom brakes out there?
Also, are their climbing skins available for such wide ski's? Or would you guys recommend not cutting skins for such a wide ski b/c it will be to difficult to climb with these skis?
I have a pair of 189 k2 pantoons with Diamir Fritchi bindings and you local shop should be able to bend them or put breaks on them that will fit right. Their are climbing skins that are prettty wide that will work with the ski not perfectly, but pretty good if your not doing too long of hikes.
i'd never skied a ski quite as fat as this one until my first few lines through the trees in revelstoke a few weeks ago. holy crap, i would NOT expect a ski this wide to maneuver quite as nimbly as it did. i am 5'7", 155lbs, ski aggressively, went with the 175cm...sort of wish i went longer, but i'm not disappointed in the ski at all. it manages surprisingly well on the hardpack, and when you get this ski up on its rails, rounding corners on fresh corduroy, you might get a few looks from people that didn't think it was possible to carve on something so fat...but somehow, it really is...and it's damn fun!
obviously, this ski wants to be in the deep stuff, though. that's what it was built for. it doesn't disappoint; aim it down and just go. it wants to go fast, but the ski can handle it.
i wanted to mount dukes on here, but decided that i wouldn't want to tour much on a ski this wide. might grab some gotama's or katana's (or similar) with dukes for next season as a slackcountry setup. for the kuros, i went with STH 16's, mounted on the line, and i'm happy with that choice.
While the original '08-'09 had "issues with durability" Volkl sent me new ones, and this years model shows no signs of a warranty return. Much improved to launch with reckless abandon! Put an "S" on your chest and go save the mountain from boring lines! Powder, Broken powder, whatever, bring it on, theses things are turbochargers for your feet!
The most fun I've ever had on snow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is the kuro for me??
i'm 5'7", around 155lbs, ride
is the kuro for me??
i'm 5'7", around 155lbs, ride aggressively and i grew up riding the steep & short ice that makes up the midwest and further north (canada). my current daily ski is a pair of salomon crossmax 10's from years ago (175's). super narrow waist, but i work my way through 4+ feet of the fresh stuff (steeps/bowls/chutes/big mtn) regularly.....
is the kuro for me? i want something to play with rather than the workout i currently get. i was thinking 185's. any other ski suggestions? also, what bindings do you guys use on this 132 waist?
well it sounds like you need a ski for everything in the backcountry. the kuro is a very big ski. it will work for everything you want it to do quite well. i would recommend the k2 obsethed. which will be a much better all around backcountry performer as well as being mush more playful and being one of the floatiest skis out there.
to andrew the kuro isn't just for bottomless. guys have used it in chamonix so i think it has had a successful career as a ski mountaineering plank. and it also works quite well on the groomed
thanks for the reply! i should've mentioned that i'm not looking to REPLACE my crossmax's with a really fat ski, as i'm still stuck on ice for the most part, but i do try to make a trip or 2 out west for the real stuff every season. i'd want a more powder specific type floater ski, which is why i'd want a really fat one. i've tried skis in the 105-110 waist over the past couple years and they're way more fun than my crossmax's in the deep stuff (obviously), but i was after something even wider. but it's true, i don't weigh much. i'd go for a mid-fat if i lived in the mountains, but alas...i don't.
and most reviews of the really fat skis i've read say to go longer when choosing ski length, no??
The 185 kuro is probably the most radica change you could make from the Crossmax. It's a huge ski that is relatively stiff compared to other skis this fat. I'd suggest you look at the Gotama if you want a ski from volkl. For a person your size you'll get all the float you need and tons more versatility in variable conditions. Also I'd look in the 175is range in any fat ski. There is no big benefit to the longer sizes. Other skis you might want to take a look at are the Line Sir Francis Bacon, The K2 obsethed or even the Rossignol s7. Bottom line: the kuro is designed exclusively for wide open bottomless pow. The others are better in a wider variety of conditions and terrain and will still float miles better than your current skis.
The 185 kuro is probably the most radica change you could make from the Crossmax. It's a huge ski that is relatively stiff compared to other skis this fat. I'd suggest you look at the Gotama if you want a ski from volkl. For a person your size you'll get all the float you need and tons more versatility in variable conditions. Also I'd look in the 175is range in any fat ski. There is no big benefit to the longer sizes. Other skis you might want to take a look at are the Line Sir Francis Bacon, The K2 obsethed or even the Rossignol s7. Bottom line: the kuro is designed exclusively for wide open bottomless pow. The others are better in a wider variety of conditions and terrain and will still float miles better than your current skis.
The Kuro flat out slays the mountain. I cannot say enough good things about this ski. Obviously, the Kuro is an answer to your prayers on the deep days. But to really find Jesus, you have to ski it on crud, softish bumps and groomers, which the Kuro dominates. The burly flex and massive girth absorb and smooth out tracked snow, hard landings and so on. And with the ELP rocker, you get a ton of edge on the snow when laying down trenches on the groomers. At the same time, given the amount of tip and tail rocker, you can butter the ski fairly well; not quite like an S7 or JJ, but if it's soft, send it sideways. Like Jess said, they're most comfortable at speed- the governor is up to you and you only. At the same time, I didn't feel at all nervous to ski tight trees and variable conditions that demanded conservative skiing. Also, even though they are heavy muthas and on the stiff side, I couldn't believe how poppy they felt off bumps, jumps and the like. I think it's badass, too, how people tour on these- don't tell Ron, but as I recall, I sniped Perlas that same day right before he did ;)- they're maybe a little too heavy for me on the uphill, but you couldn't have a better ski on the down. Consider me a believer!
If I wanted a ski for deep powder, trees, back country, chutes, and bowls would I prefer this (for float, stiffness, etc...) or a bent chetler/salomon rocker 2 (more nimble for trees)? I am not worried about the performance on groomers just deep powder and what I have listed.
I'm 6'3" and have both the 185 and 195 and have been skiing them for three seasons now. I use the 185 for noodling around Alta because they are quick turning and lower swing weight than the 195's and have Dukes mounted on the 195's for touring and deep resort days.Both ski's are stiff torsionally underfoot and progressively stiffer from underfoot to tail which from my experience with other double rocker skis separate the Kuro from the crowd. On all but the iciest of groomers Kuro's rail and skiing pow they are super surfy and stable. Their weakness is skiing firm moguls.At speed that they are stable but I need to focus on staying forward as inertia wants to rock me in the backseat.Lastly, Kuros and I'm sure other double rocker skis as well, enable me to actually ski zipper with a modicum of proficiency which is a huge benefit skiing south faces in the Wasatch.
I'm debating between the 185 versus the 195 cm. At 6'1 and 200 lbs I slay the fresh like there's no tomorrow and I always go big whenever I can. Which size should I add to my quiver?
Trying to figure out how short the Kuro's actually ski to
Trying to figure out how short the Kuro's actually ski to decide between 175's & 185's for a big mountain addition. My go to skis now are 170 Mantras. I feel like I'm stuck between sizes on the Kuro...thoughts?
2 Comments Last Comment: November 25, 2011 by: mtv3032376
By: mtv3032376
November 25, 2011
That is the only bad thing about these skis. I take solar EZ and fill in the nicks and sand them down so the core doesn't get wet. I'm not sure of a solution for this problem but it's not just these skis that have this problem. I've had three pair of k2 skis top sheet completely delaminate within a few months of skiing on them, yet K2 made every excuse not to honor their warranty. I didn't think the nicks on the kuros were significant enough to contact Volkl. I ordered the 195's this year, so we'll see how they hold up.
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By: lr55291
May 19, 2011
I have the 08-09 version in 185 (natural wood grain color). Very happy with the ski-ability of this ski. I'm a full time patroller, and had these with me on a 9 day cat trip in the south chilcotins. The only thing I wasnt' crazy about was the topsheet construction, chipping, etc etc. I too am thinking about 195's for next year. I'm wondering if there have been any improvements with the topsheets you have on your later model. Normally, I wouldn't care, but they seem soooo soft?
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