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Alpine pursuits are unforgiving, and the Stoic Men's Bertol Guide Softshell Pant offers uncompromising durability in the face of brutal bids to the summit. Simple and tough, this pant was inspired by the rugged route to the Bertol Hut high in the Swiss mountains, and was designed to provide ultimate flexibility and comfort. Highly-breathable Schoeller Dryskin softshell material allows sweaty vapors to escape from within so you feel comfortable, not stifled, on long approaches. Scream up skin track in November or drag yourself through a rocky scree field in early spring; either way, this rugged pant shrugs it off and asks for more.
Schoeller Dryskin softshell material is quiet, highly durable, and includes a touch of spandex for flexibility and ultimate range of motion
3-D Egonomic Fit means this pant hangs straight and provides a streamlined, close-to-body fit while still allowing room underneath for layering
Gusseted crotch and formed legs make it comfortable for climbing, bouldering, or scrambling through scree fields when you're weighed down with gear
Calf-height side zips make it easy to pull this pant on and off over your boots and access buckles or straps underneath
Backcountry.com is the exclusive US distributor for Stoic products
I like these pants, got em on SAC for around $90 which is a great deal for these. THey are schoeller fabric which is a proprietary and thus prob put these at the initial higher price point. I also have a couple pairs of the stoic overhang pants which I really like, so will compare to them. These guide pants are more stretchy, the fabric feels a bit thinner but does seem to breathe better. Water resistance is similar and acceptable for soft shell material. Composition is 94% polyamide and 6% elastane which is exactly the same as the overhang pant ie nylon is polyamide. These seem to fit better than the overhang ie dont taper as much at ankle and a mores streamlined, better fit for me in size large. they have a nice rubber coating on the inside cuff to keep them down on your boots. I've only put these through a couple uses and so far I like them, good durability, nice instep protection panels and I like the khaki color (although they are darker than the pants in the pic). Note there are less pockets on these, no back pockets. AT $90 a good deal and at $126 acceptable. I wouldn't pay any more than that for these though. Just get the overhang.
Just got these great pants and didn't find detailed washing
Just got these great pants and didn't find detailed washing instructions. They look to me like I had better be careful with that. Is there a "Curley" Video? if not, suggestions. Cold, warm or hot water? Use or don't use dryer?
The materials performance is related to the washing.... Wash often. Bacon grease from breakfast, sunscreen from morning, cheese from lunch, and sweaty palms from evening climb all make the DWR wear out.
Wash cold to warm water, use a nikwax tech wash, or a mild soap. avoid normal laundry detergent, it has surfactants (the opposite of DWR).
After a summer of washes and wears, for best performance, spray on a DWR. Nikwax softshell, or a TX direct. dry a bit on medium heat and it will evenly coat the outside, and make a Big improvement in maintaining DWR.
The key to a softshell working as a shell, is a strong water repellancy on the surface.
I've used the Tour pants for 2 years. The fit and construction of the Bertol pant looks very similar. The difference is the Schoeller material, zippered front pockets, and no back pockets.
Actually, the Stoic Bertol Guide Pants utilize a different Schoeller material, however I'm not quite sure which one. The difference can be seen in the compositions of the Schoeller materials: (94% Nylon, 6% Spandex) for the Bertol Guide, whereas (73% Nylon, 18% Polyester, 9% Spandex) for the backcountry.com tour se.
As for insulation, it says the lining is midweight, so think a midweight pair of long underwear. The backcountry.com tour se does not have any form of insulation. The only other difference is weight, as far as I can tell comparing the specs. The backcountry.com tour se weighs 6oz more.
I may be wrong, as I own neither of these pants, so feel free to correct me if you know otherwise. I would also appreciate someone from BC chiming in, as they would probably be able to give a better explanation than me.
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