...at long last, we found a "jacket" that worked! Trying to find a new winter coat for my 11 yr old son, was proving difficult. Michigan winters are cold, windy, wet, dry, not so cold (everything is relative), followed by wind chills of minus 22. Also, he is at that difficult sizing stage....almost but not quite out of kid sizes and mom has a two-winter coat rule. We had to return a "should have fit" Burton. He was so bummed, and not happy to substitute, in his opinion, a much less cool VF Vorcyon. Happy surprise, upon receipt! We were all very pleased, the coat is much better looking in person, big enough for two winters, and has all the necessary pockets, etc. The jacket seems to work well for our capricious winters... a little more layering is necessary for a wind chill minus 22 days.