Back to basics, Hestra leather is the way to go. I have these and the XCR short. Both are great, although these fit better and move better. If they fit tight at first, it is perfect, as they will form to your hand in a couple of days. Unlike the XCR, these don't have any gore-tex, so you have to treat them with Nikwax. I used about half a tube on mine when I first got them. Bake gloves in oven at 150 degrees for a few minutes, liberally rub nikwax into palms and fingers. Repeat a bunch of times, then as needed throughout the season. The gloves develop a nice patina. Too bad they don't make the yellow ones anymore, cause mine look killer!