My other shoes are the Scarpa Vapors, which are an excellent shoe, decently aggressive and asymmetrical which I bought a size and half down from street shoe which is a 9.5. The vapors have now become my comfort shoes compared to my Teams, these incredibly aggressive shoes with an amazingly sensitive down-turned toe are my shoes I put on when I need that extra edge to complete a project. I know most people go same as street shoe on the Teams but I had to up to size 10, and after having them for a few months they are broken in, and work on anything. the tiniest of micro footholds feel like ledges, and overhung walls feel like climbing slab with these shoes. I was told you should only use them for climbing the toughest problems, but I am presently in the V4 V5 range and these shoes are what have broken me out of that plateau. If you need that extra push these shoes are it. Be prepared for a tight and slightly painful shoe but feel like you might as well be cheating when you put these on.