These things are great. Period. They hike, climb snow, scramble on rock, send ice routes and basically do it all without a problem. No doubt these crampons have climbed some of the hardest routes in the world! Also, they shed the snow with the anti-balling plates and they are stainless steel, so although not the lightest, they do not rust and stay beautiful looking and clean, even when a real bad ass mountain man like myself would prefer otherwise!! BOOM!!

I bought both the Grandoe Virago and the Black Diamond Virago. I have only tried these on at home and have not ice-climbed, skied or gone up any mountains in them. Based on my initial impression, I feel the Virago is really, really nice glove that seems to be more durable and more hard-core than the Logan, but the Logan just has so much dexterity! I think they are both about the same for warmth. If I were only going to ski with the, I would keep the Virago because it looks cooler and because it has the heater pocket and because it seems slightly tougher. But since I am freaking hard-core mountain man who doesnt care about wimpy stuff like heater pockets and looks, I am going with the warm, still very tough and super maneuverable LOGAN!!! I will try to remember to write again once I really use the Logan outside in the cold, snow and ice. Thanks for listening.

I bought both the Grandoe Virago and the Black Diamond Virago. I have only tried these on at home and have not ice-climbed, skied or gone up any mountains in them. Based on my initial impression, I feel the Virago is really, really nice glove that seems to be more durable and more hard-core than the Logan, but the Logan just has so much dexterity! I think they are both about the same for warmth. If I were only going to ski with the, I would keep the Virago because it looks cooler and because it has the heater pocket and because it seems slightly tougher. But since I am freaking hard-core mountain man who doesnt care about wimpy stuff like heater pockets and looks, I am going with the warm, still very tough and super maneuverable LOGAN!!! I will try to remember to write again once I really use the Logan outside in the cold, snow and ice. Thanks for listening.