I have a pair of old strech triolet pants that have been 5+ star. I was hoping these would replace them, but I should have read the product description closer "Details include a Bombay Fly for no-hassle relief when nature calls; " This Fly Sucks. It goes all the way around and is annoying as hell. The way the zipper is made, arcteryx imitation, it is really wide and uncomforatble; rubs on your thighs. It also runs up your butt, when you sit down it feels like you have a kevlar rope g-string on. And really, how often to you need to completely unzip down the middle? I agree with the other reviewers that it runs small, and unlike the big guy, I though it was short seamed. There is also only one pocket, just big enough to keep you lipstick in (I don't even think an I-phone would fit in it). Don't ski clothing designers carry anything in their pockets? I might be OK for ice climbing, but this is not a pant for ski-touring.