I wore an 8.5 in Dragons and had to move up to a 9 in the Team 5.10. The 8.5s I received first were foot crushingly small. I returned them for 9s and they are still very tight, but in a good way. They are shaping up to be better than the Dragons so far and that's saying a lot. I had trouble with the Dragons getting pulled off on difficult heel hooks even if I tied them very very tight. The teams, even though they aren't lace ups, have yet to pull off on a heel hook. They toe just as well as the Dragons and toe hook much more solidly. Next time they go on sale, I might buy another pair to have when my current ones wear out.