"Technical, breathable, and bulletproof; this are the last winter pant that you'll ever need". Not true! Had these for less than a season, cared for them as they required to maintain optimum performance. Seams are de-laminating. Will most likely go back to an Arcteryx bib or pant! They were comfortable, warm and I liked some of the features, but all in all, I don't feel confident they will hold-up in the most demanding conditions.....and that could end up as a real bummer when you need them to perform at their peek!
Just an acknowledgement, I understand manufacturing pocesses are not perfect, so perhaps I bought that 1-in-10,000 pair that was doomed to fail. Who knows!