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Answer to: "how do these skis compare with the k2 obSETHed a friend of mine"

Black Diamond Havoc Ski

February 12, 2009

totally different ski, the obsethed is a rockered 105mm waist twin tip with abs sidewall, the havoc is a regular camber 88mm waist cap ski.

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Have the people who advocate the Pieps DSP tried a multiple burial

Ortovox M2 Avalanche Beacon

February 11, 2009

Have the people who advocate the Pieps DSP tried a multiple burial senario with 4 beacons, and 3 being within a 3 yard radius?

Nailed It? 0 Yes

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