I really have no reason not to give these pants the full 5 stars. North Face has made a very high quality pair of pants here. The fabric is soft, breaths, and feels great. You can happily wear these pants out on trail, in the city, or even to the office. The fit is really nice too, and hugs in all the right places (assuming you want it to hug in "the right places"). Note: I am 6' 2'' and generally wear a 34'' 34'' and I think that these run like a 35'' maaaybe 36'' in length. Originally I got the 34'' waist and then returned it for a 36'': TOO SMALL, TOO TIGHT. Shoot for one size larger in the waist and you'll be happy you did. Great pair of pants.