I love this shoe. I am currently on my fourth pair. I don't know if that is bad, but I climb almost every day, indoors and out, and I seem to go through them kind of quickly. They do stretch out a fair amount-I keep downsizing. I wear a size 8 in street shoes and a size 36 in these, but I will probably downsize at least another half size next time. These shoes just seem to fit my foot so well (my foot is pretty symmetrical). All other shoes squish my last few toes, but these are great. They could be a little more aggressive, but overall, I love them! I usually go for comfort, so these definitely work for me.