I have always chosen looks over tech when it came to my skate shoes. For a couple years I've rocked Gravis Filters purely because of it's ultra slim and good look profile, sacrificing protection and longer lasting technology. I've always wanted to try an STI shoe but es, etnies, emerica just wasn't my steeze. Finally, I just said screw it and purchased a pair. If this is your steeze, you'll be 100% absolutely satisfied. The the DTTF pro 2 with gel heel is amazing. The main footbed feels so nice compared to cloud 9 footbed, and the gel heel is a major plus. Even though I prefer Remind Insoles because of my high arch, but these are amazing flat insoles. Double wrapped fox will make your shoe last a lot longer. Overall if you're a skaterat that likes these styles of shoes, you'll benefit 100% from STI technology. I just can't rock edgars with the clothes I wear, but I love the shoe. In the picture I tried to show you the bottom threads, it's a very nice one, a lot of board feel.