a couple of years ago I bought this jacket for rowing and hiking in the colder months. it has served the purpose (and plenty of others) perfectly, and has lasted well over 2 years of nearly daily use four months out of the year. it's just roomy enough to fit a layer of capilene and/or R1 base underneath, and streamlined enough to toss a vest and shell over without feeling like a pufferfish. i realized today that i need a fresh jacket - this one will be relegated to outdoor chores. and i also realized one reason i enjoy getting up on cold mornings is the pleasure of tossing this thing over my shoulders. buy it!! you'll be happy.