I would have to agree with everything chris said above except the comment regarding China. I thought the same way "O man, why did they send all the business to china? I asked the Arcteryx rep at my store. The fact of the matter is, Canada simply does not have the advanced clothing manufacturing facility that China has! Check out some of arcteryx new products, built stronger, built better, and made in china. I would still rather have them made in Canada but they are definitely not lacking quality because of it. Hope this clears the air over china....not likely.