I'm a old guy who looks for comfort and durability. I have used them in AZ and MT and they are great outdoors at both places. I bike in them as well. I have to admit that I also bought them for looks. It was cool wearing them around as casuals with jeans or shorts when I first got them. Lots of nice comments as dress. However, the black marks they left on the floor was not cool. Yes, I know the tread is made for grip outdoors and if you get lost while hiking you can use the sole to write SOS on a rock! Make this Evolv with a floor friendly sole and you will sell thousands for casual wear!