I have only one day of riding on these pants but I really like them so far. They feel as though they will hold up over time well. They fit a bit loose but that is the way I like them, I got a small (im 58, 140) I did try some other 686s on in the store ahead of time to get a better ideal of how they would fit before I purchased them online. I love the color and I tried the suspenders but did not really like the way they felt, so I let them hang down just for looks instead of taking them off. I tried on several different boarding pants and I am glad I went with these.