OK with 50+ days on 'em the liner is packed out. I had them re-fitted that helped. Also once last season and once this season I have blown out the inside rivet holding bottom of shell to upper shell. Not sure if it was the same boot or not, also not sure if skiing in walk mode on rare occasions causes this rivet to weaken. Sorry but sometimes I F*&^ up and forget to put 'em back in ski mode, but only a few turns before you realize your error. Still a beefy, comfy boot and a nice option for the one boot quiver. Just a couple of concerns of mine to be aware of and curious if others expierence these symtoms. I still recommend them if your in the market for a stiff AT boot.