I had my eye on this jacket, but decided against it and bought last year's Cloudveil insulated mid layer instead (Enclosure Jacket no hood). The stitching and odd fit reviews detered me from the stoic. Then, the next day this popped up on S&C. I swipped the black/deep for $90 with every intention of returning it. The damn thing is perfect. I'm 5'10, 150lbs and got a medium. I can put a few small layers under it or a shell over (the helment hood makes it a touch bulky though). I'm praying I don't have stitching issues. Truth be told, I'll probably use the smaller cloudveil (i got a small) as an athletic layering peice and the stoic as an outer jacket on chilly days around town. Sorry bank account, its too good. Oh, and the 'deep' colored zippers aren't obnoxious like they look in pics.