I was a bit disappointed with the gloves. There are several reasons for my disappointment. The grip (Rodeo) wasn't as "grippy" as my wife's Gore-Over glove. One would expect that it would be the higher quality of the two considering the increased cost. I was also disappointed with its warmth. The gloves were plenty warm when moving but during idle time they were barely acceptable. The last item was the fit. The glove fit well when the liner was on but were very sloppy worn without the liner. For the amount paid I expected more. These gloves weren't as warm, grippy, or as nice of a fit as my $40 Glacier Gloves.