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The Patagonia Men's Hi-Loft Down Sweater keeps you plenty warm when you're belaying your partner ice climbing, waiting for the bus mid-winter, or simply chilling with your lady while camping. This highly-compressible 800-fill-goose down jacket stops the cold from chilling your bones, while its windproof recycled polyester shell with DWR-coating helps protect you from melting snowflakes. The lightweight Hi-Loft also works well beneath your winter shell or by itself.
Pretty great jacket, gives that instant warmth that only down encased in thin polyester can do. This jacket is cut a little bit longer in the torso than most of the down sweaters, but I like it. The one down side is that the arms at the pit are a bit tight.
I have tried every puffy jacket on the market and although very trendy, patagonia makes the best one for tall people. It is a little bulky through the torso (not as bad as first ascent not as good as the north face thunder) but it is cut longer through the torso (unlike marmot zeus)and the sleeves are also longer. I am 6 foot 3 and 230 pounds I wear the xL. Compared to first ascent, the north face, marmot, and outdoor research this was the best fitting. Plenty warm and very light. Pairs nicely with my theta ar. Articulated arms are awesome and will never buy a jacket without them again. Can not attest to durability yet. Face fabric is thin (like every other puffy) pertex shell on the north face thunder jacket seems a little more durable but has not lost a single feather yet (unlike the outdoor research trancendance and first ascent down sweater). I found myself in between sizes in patagonia in the past (l or xL) this one seems to fit better but could still be a little more trim through the torso (like the north face thunder). Overall great puffy.
Best Durability?
I am looking at the Marmot Zeus, NF Nuptse,
Best Durability?
I am looking at the Marmot Zeus, NF Nuptse, and the Patagonia Hi-Loft - all seem to be about the same in terms of warmth. Any feedback on what is more durable in terms of both damage (first), and wind-resistance (second)?
I'm shopping for a down sweater/jacket and want to know what the ripstop ratings mean (oz, "D" number, etc). Can somebody explain? I am leaning towards a jacket that is more durable if possible.
The Zeus and Hi-Loft Sweater may be comparable in warmth to each other but they are not comparable to the heavier Nuptse, which, while it uses (slightly) lower fill power down, and has a (slightly) heavier face fabric, is filled with much more down, and is therefore much warmer. The Nuptse will have the most durable face fabric of the three, all three will be wind-proof.
Go with the Zeus or Hi-Loft if you want light and warm, go with the Nuptse if you want more warmth at the expense of more weight.
The Zeus uses 1.1 oz ripstop, the Nuptse 50D 1.8 oz, and the Hi-Loft 20D 1.4 oz. I wear a jacket with 20D 1.05oz fabric that has taken sticks and rocks without issue and is windproof as far as I can tell. Any of the fabrics will be fine.
Both the Zeus and Hi-Loft use 800 fill down while the Nuptse utilizes 700 fill. That the Nuptse uses lower-fill down and weighs almost twice as much would eliminate it for me.
Between the Zeus and the Hi-Loft, I would go with whichever fits better. You can't go wrong with either one.
This is a very nice sweater that should slot in perfectly between the Down Sweater and the Fitz Roy for a lot of folks. Only about an ounce heavier than the Down Sweater, and that's all fill, as this has 115 grams of 800-fill. It's being offered in some nice colors as well...
I find myself wearing this jacket (sweater, whatever) almost daily because of the style and functionality. It blocks out the wind and cold but is extremely light in weight. It's puffy but not overstuffed or bulky. I compared to the Marmot and I liked the fit and and fill of this one slightly better. I'm 6'4, 200 lbs with long arms and torso. I went with the XL and love the fit. It has enough room to layer with a fleece and isn't baggy in the body.
I just sold my old 2008 model 700-fill Patagonia Down Jacket on flea-Bay for almost the same price this one cost. So far I am very impressed by this 13.8 oz Hi-Loft. This thing is much more lighter and more compressible that the previous 700-fill Patagonia Down Jackets. My main gripe with Patagonia jackets has always been the outer nylon fabrics pick up dirt rather easily so I got the Hi-Loft Jacket in the Black color. I previously had Gecko Green, Channel Blue, Real Red and Llama Brown in Patagonia Down Jackets over the years and found myself washing them every two weeks after normal wear because the collar, sleeves and zipper areas would show any dirt and oils from your skin that came into contact with the jacket. With the Black color I expect my laundry bill to less this winter. My other gripe with Patagonia Down Jackets of past were the lack of neck, wrist and butt protection when the wind picked up. This Hi-Loft seems to remedy all those issues with a very high neck collar, slightly longer sleeves for the size and a longer hemline with a great 1-side/1-toggle easy cinch that hugs down the hemline around your waist, butt and hip area. That said the jacket is very very light and it would almost seem like a magic trick if it keeps me warm when the weather gets to 20 degrees F. But I expect it will. I'm not sure why Patagonia calls this a sweater since most of us will be wearing this as a regular jacket with layers underneath. In fact the beauty of this jacket is that it is cut slim but is still roomy enough for a thick thermal base layer shirt and a R2 fleece layer to go underneath. I'm and 5'8" and 150 lbs and the Size Medium fits me perfect! I did find it to fit slightly slimmer and feel less bulky in the torso area than previous Patagonia Down Jackets so if you are a layer freak and plan on this Hi Loft being your outer most layer then consider sizing up. Either way this jacket seems to be very warm on it's own. For the price it better be.
I would like to add: 1. The sleeves are very much articulated so the jacket doesn't ride up when you raise your arms in the air. I'm not sure if I've ever had this feature on a down jacket before 2. The 800 Loft is actually very much different than the 700 Loft down jackets. It is really much more compressible and warmer and also lighter. 3. The one toggle cinch point on the hemline is actually more useful than you may think. My initial concern was that the jacket would cinch and bunch at the location of the one cinch point and look lopsided but this is not the case. The cinch is somehow even along the hemline of the jacket so it cinches at equally both sides and slightly towards the front while the back hem still hangs lower to protect the butt, lower back and keep the jacket from riding up. Great feature.
I'm 6'2" and 188lbs - the large is too bulky/roomy and the medium too short in the torso and arms. My local shop is calling this brand "Fatagonia" and I tend to agree.
The Hi-Loft Down Sweater is identical in materials and construction to the regular Down Sweater, with a few small tweaks: there's more down so it's warmer, it's longer and a little roomier in the body, the baffles are wider than the regular Down Sweater. There's approx 50% more down here than a regular Down Sweater. (and the Ftiz Roy Down Hoody is an entirely different beast and is approx 2x warmer again than the Hi-Loft) The other Down Sweater option is the Patagonia Ultralight Down Jacket, which is a lighter, more technical version with a super tough nylon fabric. cheers, hope that helps
Thanks, so just to clear, you think the hi-loft is warmer than this one correct? Are there other more expensive Patagonia sweaters? http://www.backcountry.com/patagonia-down-sweater-jacket-mens
Thanks, so just to clear, you think the hi-loft is warmer than this one correct? Are there other more expensive Patagonia sweaters? http://www.backcountry.com/patagonia-down-sweater-jacket-mens
yes! much much much warmer! The Hi-Loft is similar, if not identical, to the Patagonia Fitz Roy Down Jacket from 2009-2010. In fact it replaced the Fitz Roy as the main down coat and can be likened to having a Patagonia Fitz Roy Hooded Down with the same loft but no hood.
The other down sweaters are more expensive because they are tailored pieces that appeal to the whole "light is right" fad. But in my experience the Patagonia sweater pieces are more fad than function and most likely only benefit the wearer when layered under a rain shell or parka.
I'm 5'10" and the arms and body are LONG on this jacket for me- the arms are cut much skinnier than other patagonia down styles (fitz roy + down sweater) - the other thing I wish was better was the pockets- they should be higher and the zippers should be more on an angle closer to the middle of the jacket rather than on the sides- this is a great jacket just wish it was cut better for my shape- get one- yea, its a bit pricey but hey it Pat-uh-gucci...
I hope you didn't pay retail for this. Use google search and you will see many webstores selling this for under $150. I got mine for $159 but I've seen a few web stores carry sales that have them as low as $119!
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