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Black Diamond Quadrant Alpine Touring Boot - Men's - 2010 BCS
You earn every turn you make in the backcountry, so don\222t settle for a boot that can\222t hack it when it comes time to carve up the fresh. The Black Diamond Men\222s Quadrant Alpine Touring Boot combines the lightweight platform of an AT boot with the downhill performance of a freeride boot, so you can charge up the skin track and still drive fat skis through pow like a trucker on speed.
- Stiff but lightweight thermoformable liner features Boa closure for quick and easy adjustments
- Pivoting Cuff Technology transmits power in ski mode and offers unparalleled 40-degree range of motion in walk mode for a natural touring stride
- Alpine overlap construction makes for a progressive, controlled flex on the down
- Rockered rubber outsole provides optimal traction in cold, snowy conditions
- Overlap construction gives an alpine flex thatís capable of driving skis 95mm and wider
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best boots ever!
July 29, 2012
broke my boots half way through last season. replaced with the Quadrants. they are fantastic. they are so comfy. plenty stiff. easy to tour in. works well on rocks. best boot i have ever owned. thank you black diamond.
great shells bad liners and buckles
November 1, 2011
these boots ski much more powerfully and have way better touring flex than the zzeros and megarides i used before for similar weight. liners were heavy and uncomfortable, i replaced them. toe buckle doesn't do anything but push the plastic straight down into your toe so i don't crank it down . instep buckle is in an exposed position and gets opened sometimes when bootpacking and gets bent quick if your ski trips involve any walking on rocks. all the buckles are a little bent at this point (20 days?) i have used other boots 5x as much with no problems, the stamped design is light but not very durable. great first try just needs a few tweaks.
Would it be safe to put the 328mm boot sole length into my bindings
Would it be safe to put the 328mm boot sole length into my bindings that say they have a min 330mm?
January 31, 2012
It's best not to be at the ends of the spectrum in terms of bindings and coming up 2mm short will likely result in prerelease and/or a lack of a secure attachment to begin with. I'd avoid that combination.
By: Arthur Debowski
January 31, 2012
just talked to a "helper" and he suggested these boots.
just talked to a "helper" and he suggested these boots. I've got a big foot: 13.5-14.5 These go up to a 30.5 which according to the chart is 13.5 Hmmmm. Any other big feet out there with this boot or a suggestion otherwise?
December 29, 2011
I'm a 12.5 street size, and I wear these in 30.5... any smaller and I'd be hurting. Don't do it.
October 11, 2012
Don't do it- I'm a size 13 normally, the 30.5 is TIGHT!
By: d staudigel
January 7, 2012
March 28, 2011
Dropped in on the Cross Couloir on Holy Cross for my first run in these boots, they perfomed admirably. The light weight, ultra-comfortable walk mode, and downhill performance of the boot is combination that will be tough to beat in my opinion. I do share the negative opinions of the stock BD liners however, but adding Intuitions really sealed the deal for me.
November 29, 2010
27 too big, 26.5 too small. I dunno whose foot they modeled this boot around but it must've been a weird one
Hi, I'm looking at these boots, but according to BD's
Hi, I'm looking at these boots, but according to BD's chart (not BC.com's chart) a 10.5 US falls right between 27.5 & a 28. My foot tends to run wide and the toe box has been an issue in the past (Garmont Adrenaline)
Any thoughts on the sizing?
October 31, 2011
keep in mind that half sizes dont actually exist in ski boots. So with BD if you buy a 27.5 your really buying a 27 shell with a thinner factory footbed (not kidding thats the only difference). If your touring with them i would say go 28 (warm happy feet).
By: Chris Ebeling
November 3, 2011
May 6, 2012
I made the jump last season from regular ski boots to these. I expected to sacrifice performance for less weight and the insane walk mode. I was wrong!! This boot out performs my old boots on every level!! I've done 8 mile tours and bombed groomed trails with these and they never let me down. I used them for winter tour camping and my feet stayed toasty the whole time. I love the liner but i haven't tried anything else so i can't say too much other than i had it molded to my foot and it feels great. Between these boots and the Dynafit bindings I got I dropped POUNDS off my set up without sacrificing performance.
Really nice boot-
February 29, 2012
Coming from the Denali TT, these boots feel stiff as can be. Really great range of motion for ascending, and stiff enough to make big skis charge hard in crud, piste, and pow. I would say that my one small gripe so far, and it may be a simple fix, is the forward angle in ski mode. Feels a bit upright to me. Also, I'm using my old Scarpa intuition liners, and can't comment on the quality of the unused Quadrant liners-although the boa system seems like something I would manage to break imediately. Overall, the shell is just about exactly what I was looking for. Be advised on the Mondo sizing-BD bases their Mondo on UK sizes not US sizes, so a BD Mondo 28 won't be a US size 10, it'll be more like an 11. Double check Black Diamond's size chart to get a sense of the sole length that corresponds to the boot size you're ordering especially if you're coming from a different boot brand, because you'll probably need to make a binding adjustment, or maybe even choose a different shell size.
ski mainly back country but mainly decent, although we do an
ski mainly back country but mainly decent, although we do an or twos walking or touring some climbing ... and ski on Volkl Gotama with Marker Duke bindings. My current boots (Lange from Surefoot) are very heavy, as moulded boots are ..and I want to lighten my load and get one of these newer AT boots that is stiff and tall enough to perform like a down hill boot under my frame - I'm 6ft4+ and 220lbs with size 12 (UK) feet! I do intend to get another set of skis and may fit dynafit bindings - so I'm after a boot that'll work for me on my dukes and dynafits.
Do you the Quadrant is a good choice for my frame and my bindings given teh skiing I do. I've seen a number of write ups and am going to try some Garmont and Dynfit and Salamon Quests. Black Diamond have 2 boots I'm interested in - the Factor 130 and Quadrants... again, do u have a view on suitability between them for a canoe footed
October 27, 2011
Great shell, so so liner :/
February 1, 2012
The boots are everything ever advertised, stiff, light, awesome tour mode etc. The liners on the other hand don't fit the boot that well, and the boa is just a PIA, (Take a hint BD) nobody I know including myself actually likes the boa on any of the at, freeride, or tele boots. It breaks, takes longer, and the liner material is crap already, so in no way does it enhance fit. I threw some old intuitions in these as advised by others and thoroughly enjoyed the hell out of them. Its like walking in a tennis shoe, and skiing in an (almost) alpine boot. These are awesome, just plan on upgrading liners if you want them to fit.
One of the lucky ones
January 25, 2012
Recently acquired a pair of these boots and they fit my feet perfectly. I have a wide forefoot and narrow heal, dynafit boots used to crush my metatarsals and scarpas couldn't keep my heal down. I was skiing Dynafit TLT 700's before this so their skiing performance is a huge step up from that and they tour and walk just as well.
I have a new pair of 188 S7s with Marker Dukes. I usually ski
I have a new pair of 188 S7s with Marker Dukes. I usually ski BC with my Dalbello Krypton Pros but find that when I go out with some good tele skiers I have a problem keeping up especially on steep ski tracks. I'm hoping a lighter flexible boot will solve those problems but I'm worried I won't be able to drive the ski the way I like. Any Thoughts?
January 30, 2011
Sick touring boots!
January 15, 2012
I tried these boots out in Purgatory at a backcountry demo fest weekend. I also tried Dynafit Zzeros and TLT5's. The TLT5's defy logic, but they just don't accommodate the medium to larger volume of my foot. I also sport massive calves, so the Quadrant had enough adjustment to work for me.
Skiing them without being fit to them, my heel went tingly. With the liners from my 10yo Dynafit blue TLT's, I got a nice feel for them, yet I was still leaning towards the Zzeros.
I'm so glad now after skiing on them a few days that I got the BDQ's. The tour mode has amazing forward travel, perfect for skinning a typical skin track using the first elevator. The forward lean in ski mode has 2 settings.
I'm not a liner snob, I like the boa liners, they are comfortable and I've been able to dial in the buckles to find the balance of all day comfort and skiing responsiveness. Of course I had them cooked by a great local shop in northwest Montana where I live.
I've used them lift served twice, at Red Lodge and Whitefish, and love how I can trip the lower buckle after loading on the lift. That lower buckle really can be dialed in to provide perfect lower foot leverage.
I'm also riding new Dynafit bindings with the toe towers, but I had to trim the center channel on the boot souls to make the step in work right.
I drove my old skis and new skis with them, and loved the ride! Old were Rossignol T3 90 under foot, and new are BD Justice 185's. They really drove the big skis nicely, I'm really happy with my combination, I'm so glad I rode the skis and many others at the demo event. I never would have picked those skis without riding them. My setup has turned me into a Super Hero, and I like that.
Skis well, tours ok
November 14, 2011
Last year I was on the Scarpa Mastrale and I have never toured in a boot that does so well on the uphill, but the Mastrale was 1) too narrow for my foot and 2) really, really soft for the downhill. So, I went to the Quadrant this year. Strengths are the ski mode - this boot comes pretty close to most companies' freeride touring offerings, but it is a bit lighter and has a bit more articulation for the skin track. I have no problem driving really big skis with this boot. The tour mode is just OK, however. Unlike the Mastrale or the Dynafit TLT, you can't open these up and feel like you're wearing tennis shoes on the hike up. For me, most tours are less than a half day so that was ok. Also worth noting is that the stock liner in this boot is absolute junk. I really hated it and thought I hated the boot until I threw an intuition Protour in there, which stiffened the boot and provided for a much better range on the walk up.
How do the shell sizes run on these? Is the 26 shell the same
How do the shell sizes run on these? Is the 26 shell the same as the 26.5?
December 11, 2010
That's right. The shell size breaks (changes) on the whole size, so 2 liner sizes fit into the same shell size.
By: George Collier
February 29, 2012
Yep, 26.5 shell is the same as the 26, the liner is just a bit bigger on the inside.
December 25, 2010
October 30, 2011
I have not skied in these boots yet but from out of the box I am having trouble with the liner. My left foot fits like a glove but the Achilles pad puts very uncomfotable pressure on my Achilles. This is not realy a liner problem but more of a problem with the shape of my foot i guess. I put the liner from an old pair of nordica boots that are much more comfortable in and I hope this will work for me.
Good quaility boots, but ... .
September 28, 2011
This boots don't worth $659.00, but at least $300.00.
I have a great new pair of Line Prophets with Marker Barons.
I have a great new pair of Line Prophets with Marker Barons. Just picked them up at the end of last season and used them mostly on piste, since the snowpack had already started to melt.
I want to get new boots that are great on piste but also adaptable to hiking, since we spend a decent amount of time getting into the woods.
I need some recommendations.
November 29, 2010
I have the Primes and they are only slightly less supportive to these guys. Unfortunately, they arent too supportive for groomers. You might want to consider touring in regular downhill boots. I know a couple guys do it and they dont complain much.
By: Kurt Zogorski
January 23, 2011
Good boot, so-so liner
August 29, 2011
I used these boots all last season. The walk/tour mode on this boot is pretty awesome. And it is plenty stiff enough to drive big skis in the backcountry. Not charge at the resort stiff, but certainly cruise at the resort stiff. They feel really light when hiking/skinning. The buckle latch concept is pretty great as well - it makes transitions super fast. 4 stars because of questionable durability. I lost a canting nut on one boot and a rivet off the other throughout the course of the year. Not that big of a deal as BD gives you (and local dealers) free replacement parts. The shop I took mine to put the rivet in for free.
Great wide foot shell, replaceable liner
August 9, 2011
I have always had trouble with Scarpa fit - narrow toe and painful instep - and these BD boots fixed that. I heat molded the liners and the comfort is good, but they are not warm. And I hate the boa: they tighten alright, but are hard to loosen. Plus, I am enough of a knob myself that I don't need extra knobs on the sides of my calves.
Wide foot? Buy, but plan on an Intuition, just as everyone else says.
Hey, new to BD boots. wondering how much room in the toe box
Hey, new to BD boots. wondering how much room in the toe box you can create when baking the BD liners???? Mine are a bit snug, but I just pulled them out of the box.
October 28, 2010
Im not sure, personally, but if you have them molded at any respectable shop, they should have toe caps, rubber toe covers you wear under the sock in the molding process, should clear up a couple mm's. Also, check my post below, sizing runs almost a size different than some alpine boots, In my opinion.
By: Perry Hall
October 31, 2010
A better Freeride....
May 10, 2011
....boot than a AT boot. DH boot with a walking sole that isn't easily replacable btw. Nice color if you are into such things. Factor with 2 buckels o nthe lower instead of the Y strap. Stiff but could use a better transition on the flex.
March 1, 2011
These boots have some issues. The rearward travel in walk mode is terrible. The plastic on the rear cuff binds up on the lower shell, it's almost like the tolerances are off or something. Then when I lean back the front plastic bulges up against the buckles, creating a pressure point on my instep.
The liners are terrible. I had them molded, custom beds, still, they're squishy. I found them extremely uncomfortable skinning. It almost felt like the liner was moving around within the boot shell and that I either was swimming in it or it was killing my feet. I had to remove the liner and put my 3 year old intuition liners in it just for the boots to feel reasonable. With the liner cooked, I was on the smallest cuff adjustment and nearly the last notch on the buckle. This is insane; the boots are designed for cankles. This led to alot of extra plastic and crap in the way, making it tough to buckle. They feel so short (cuff height) to me that I almost press down on the top of the boot rather than pressure the tongue. Noticeably shorter than my old scarpa denali tt's. I'm 6' tall, 185#. Another shell issue is that latching the lower buckles really just crushes the top of your foot and doesn't really tighten the boot. Skiing stiffness is good, but it's a dead, firm stiffness almost. Or maybe I suck and need a softer boot.
These boots also have minimal rocker and the soles are hard. They may skin decent, but hike terribly in my opinion. My modified scarpa tt's both hiked and skied better than these.
Honestly a poor effort from BD, they walk like alpine boots and ski like touring boots. I see how with some intuitions and some work they could be reasonable, but bottom line is that a 'ski mountaineering' boot should walk better. The only reason I'm giving it two stars is because of how much my intuition overlap liners improved the skiability.
i put off buying the shiva at the end of the season in chamonix
i put off buying the shiva at the end of the season in chamonix last year because i was told that BD planned to start making the quadrant for girls. i don't think this has panned out. anyone know?
October 21, 2010
Hello eeelaine. BD did not make a lady's 4 buckle version for 2010/11. There is the Swift, which is a 3 buckle, 100 flex, Pebax touring boot. Check it out at:
By: Elias Littenberg
November 4, 2010
Hardly Dynafit compatible
January 25, 2011
I have Dynafit TLT (the kind most people have) and these boots had to be modified to fit into the front pinch pivots! I had to carve off several millimeters of rubber off of the sole for the boots to fit into my bindings. Personally, I love Black Diamond, but I was super disappointed they did not take the time to do a little research to make these "dynafit compatible". I am pretty disappointed. Also, make sure to heat mold them BEFORE your first day out as the toe box is incredibly small. Try these on before you buy, because the toebox is so small. It seems the liners aren't the right size for the shells, as each liner (and I tried on multiple) was super tight in the toebox but the shell fit perfectly. The fit was subsequently poor because the liner is what ultimately surrounds your foot.
Other than that, I like the boa laces and the stiffness is great.
Light, Comfy, and Powerful...
January 10, 2011
Bought these sight unseen based on some other reviews and what I read on WildSnow.com. They are amazingly comfortable on the up, and I am honestly blown away by the stiffness on the down. They can definitely drive a big ski. I am only 150lbs, so maybe a bigger skier would have a different experience. My only complaint so far is that they definitely didn't work great for me fit wise out of the box. They felt great climbing, but as soon as I buckle them down the forefoot volume really opens and my forefoot was just washing around. I think the Boa liner while cool... is ultimately gimicky. It is great for easily putting your foot w/ liner in and out of the shell. I am waiting for some intuition luxury liners to show up to replace the stock as well as some custom foot beds. I am hoping that this will fill up some of the volume. As a note I don't find my foot to be particularly wide or narrow. Just pretty normal width. After this is completed I think I will have some dream boots for going up and down.
January 5, 2011
skied the garmont adrenaline for 4 seasons before its rivets fell apart for the last time. was ready to upgrade, and loved the idea of the quadrant. purchased the boot and went out for a tour. if you are one of the 1%ers who fit in this boot and the liner is a dream off the bat, ur lucky. i was not. after having the liner molded, it feels like a dream. the boot tours unbelievably well and skis even better. it drives my fattys with ease. I also moved the forward lean back to 14degrees. just feels better, maybe because i'm shorter, i feel like i can get on the tips quicker. the combo of weight, tour/walk mode, and stiffness is perfect for me.
December 26, 2010
I added my intuition liner to these, and now have a dream setup! Go for it.
Also, the wire buckles are solid, the only thing I was hesitant on. And, the walk mode is insane.
Great boot shell, lame liner
December 25, 2010
Title says it all. The boot shell is great, light and sturdy. The walk mode is really excellent. The buckles can be a PIA at times with the hooks, but patience prevails. I don't like the way the buckles pressure the top of my foot, it kind of cuts off circulation to the foot. The stock liners have all the potential to be great, but only if you like super cushy liners. I can't get the tension where the boot feels solid to ski without always over tightening to compensate for the super cushy feel. BD needs to just put an Intuition liner, like a Luxury Liner in the boot and call it good. Also, the heel hold feels good in the boot with the stock liners, but my heel/liner tends to slide up when skiing the stock liner.I just use my liner for my Scarpa TX-pro NTN in the boot, and it seems to work without having to buy a whole new liner :) The wrap liners reduce the range of motion walking compared to the tongue liner, but not too significantly.Overall the ski mode is just solid, better than expected and it drives the fatter skis like my Stokes. If I had to buy again I would certainly weigh the fact that the liners suck so add the cost of a new liner to the retail cost of the boot and as others said the sizing is a little mystifying. I have a narrow heel and low volume ankle with a D size foot. It seems to favor low volume ankles and wider feet, but not too wide a foot IMO. Also, skinning is great on these with another liner, the shin pressure is not an issue even in steeper tracks.
Initial resort impressions
December 28, 2010
Light, powerful, comfortable. They ski better than Salomon race boots I'm now gladly going to eliminate, and they walk/hike with ease. They actually skate very well with the cuff released and the binding in heel down mode. I'm not really sure how you could improve on this boot.
December 14, 2010
Touring in these boots is a dream! After many years in some spirit 4s (no complaints), this boot is incredible. It eats up the skin track and I feel nimble like a cat cruzing up skin tracks and crushing powder. The liners are a bit of a let down and I'll be dropping some intuitions into these.
I would highly recomend
November 6, 2010
I bought a pair based on the shell with accommodates my width. The liners fit was so so for my bony feet.
I put in some intuition plug liners (molded). The boots feel great. Nice forward lean which is better than most AT boots Ive tried. Super light with nice power. Nice walk mode. It alway comes down to fit, for me this litghtweight combo works well. I'm sold on power wrap plug liners . If the shell is close, the mold liners seal the deal.
BD Quadrant, sizing
October 25, 2010
Boot feels great on your foot, I usually wear a Salomon Impact 10CS, with slight 5th met punches. This boot felt amazing right out of the box, BE WARY OF SIZING. I wear 26.5 boots normally, but the BSL on these runs very short, 5-7mm. The BSL on a 26.5 was 300, I upsized to a 27, and the boot felt perfect.
Walk mode is awesome, so much mobility, more than my denali XT's, and they are lighter, TLT compatible, and stiffer. Flex would be around 110 if i had to guesstimate. Hopefully will be getting a pair soon!
Three stars only as of now, as it was just a try on.