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The three-section Black Diamond Expedition Ski Pole maximizes pack space and adjustability whether you’re heading to the Alps or your local backcountry pow stash. FlickLock attachments provide a quick and secure adjustment for skinning up or making turns, and the aggressive hook shaped grip lets you adjust buckles and heel bars without bending down. The padded strap and ergonomic grip make for comfortable handling.
Bottom Line:
Lots of adjustability for a little bit of pack space.
These poles great for split-boarding. They are light weight yet strong, and super collapsable which is key if you are carrying them on you're back. I love to use them in the summer for heavy backpacking as well. Mine have held up great for the last 3 seasons...
so i already asked this question below, but not sure the answer was correct. mine, when fully collapsed, have about an inch or two of give when locked down completely down where the poles taper to their smallest point, even though they're locked, they slide up and down about an inch or two.
is this normal, do yours do that?
i went to REI and as far as i can tell, they all do that.
Cool to hear that the Black Diamond Expedition Ski Poles are on their way to you. For mounting a GoPro on to the poles, you would want to use the GoPro Ride Hero Bike Mounting Clamp so that you get the right amount of grip with the clamp to keep the GoPro main camera attached to the pole. Keep in mind that most people attach a GoPro to a non-adjustable ski pole as adjustable backcountry poles can be known to be slightly less durable.
I figured if they are good enough for Jeremy Jones, then they will do me. Used these poles on a 3 week boarding trip to Japan, they are a fantastic pole, used them with snowshoes in the backcountry. Very light and fold up to a nice short length, attaching pretty easily to even a small backpack. Easy to deploy, even wearing thick gloves. If you are a snowboarder and want to skin or snowshoe in the backcountry, these are for you.
Black diamond poles are an obvious choice because of flick lock. Although other companies have similar technologies (I believe the patent ran out) BD's quality is much better.
I chose these over the 2 section BD poles because these are much stronger. The 3 section version wobbles considerably less when applying pressure. They also pack up MUCH smaller.
Can fit it a backpack easily, the adjustable length is great for hiking or skinning. Black Diamond also has a great warranty department if they break, backcountry does too :)
If you skin up on two planks, and ride back down on one, you really have one option for poles. These are light, strong, and collapse down to nothing. Mine don't ever slip or anything, even when using them as propulsion on the flats.
but the BD attachable snow saw links to only one section of this pole, so the snow saw is wayyyy to short for cutting good columns when your dealing with deep snow. Definitely an issue that Black Diamond needs to address post haste!
This lock down tight, if they shrink as you ut weight on them make sure and turn the screw just a little bit. No you don't have to be a snow-boarder to appreciate these. I like to shrink them down when i'm moving across flats with my skis on my back, and when ascending really steep terrain i shirk them down so i can still grip the top of my pole and not have my hands way up high. I will collapse them all the way down and shove em in my boots when riding the START bus from free parking to J-Hole, and will use the same feture to get them out of my way when scrambling on rocky steep pitches.
These take a pretty good beating, just need some work with the BD Saw. If they did that so I could use two sections with the saw instead of the lower one, it would get 5 stars
The actual size of the pole can differ for people of the same size. To get an accurate 'fit' do the following: Place the pole, handle side on floor and hand just under the 'basket'. Your arm should be bent 90 degrees at the elbow. T
I have had nothing but good experiences with these poles, they are a great weight and are awesome to ski with. They are not bullet proof but they get through most situations. I would say getting them stuck in a garage door is an abnormal way to bend them- but they are still going strong despite the accident!
Rule number one, don't sit on these poles on the chair lift. I foolishly got mine caught between the seat and the seat back. Crunch.
If using these for their intended purpose, you're going to be golden. I've toured successfully with these and been very please. They collapse to about 24" and store nicely on a pack's pole/ice axe loops.
The powder baskets are great, durable, and removable.
UVM Outing Club just recently purchased 7 pairs of these to go with the 5 we had already. I use them on every trip I lead and I take them out pretty much every weekend otherwise as well. They are a litte lit heavier than my buddy's adjustable poles (older BD trekking poles he uses for telemark skiing), but they definitely do the job.
The adjustment of my MFD risers can take an extra try sometimes with the powder baskets, but I don't think that is a big deal. You can always trim off a little bit of one of the pieces of the basket.
Im looking for some poles that have the baskets that are not
Im looking for some poles that have the baskets that are not round,but have a sedated edge in front that is shorter than the otherwise round edge and allows for greater grip. Are these them? I have bought black diamond poles before that have this feature but can't seem to find the same ones. Any help?
I love these poles because they are a piece of gear that functions like they're supposed to and I never have to worry about them. The Flicklock mechanism has never moved on me once.
I jsut receieved these last night and at first glance they appear to be great. They seem to be very sturdy and stout. I love the FlickLock system. I put on a pair of gloves and found that they are very easy to manipulate even with a heavy set of gloves. I will update after I use them for a while.
...I loved these poles for all sorts of skiing. The other reviews tell the story pretty well...the only problem is that the bottom end of one was sheared off in a crash. I know that they are designed to be light but maybe the design is just too lightweight - the edge of my ski trapped the pole and that was an end to it. Maybe they should sell them individually in case of damage....
Had these for 5 years now as my only set of poles for work/play at the resort and in the backcountry. I've killed several other types. I didn't expect much longevity from them when I first got them - assumed the versatility of the 3-piece construction would sacrifice durability. They've had the odd mishap with the chairlift and been with me tumbling through the trees/rocks, but aside from some scuffing and a tiny bend in the thinnest section of one of them (which doesn't affect the collapsing), they've been really reliable. Love how small they pack away (often just stick them in my boots for transport) and have had no issues with the fliplock. If I had to have a gripe, it would be that the swing weight isn't as pleasing as my old Life Link V-C's, but whatever. Great for what I need it for.
I use my BD collapsible polls for hiking as well as for alpine
I use my BD collapsible polls for hiking as well as for alpine skiing. I love them and became very attached to them. Unfortunately this summer I lost one of the end fixtures where you can set a ski basket and turn the hiking polls into skiing polls. Is it possible to order only this part? Thanks.
Great poles. I had some Tubbs 3 piece that featured the twist lock vs. the snap lock found here. They were great until the froze fully extended on a backcountry snowboard mission. Nothing like riding down the hill with a couple 42 inch poles in your hands....Anyway, these don't do that, they work great and are much better than those POS Tubbs I had. If you will be splitting/snowshoeing in very cold temps, buy these poles.
I'm 5' 7" and plan to use these poles mostly for telemark skiing and some backpacking trips. Would the 125cm be the best size or should I go up to 140cm? Thank you
These are money if you need a pole that is highly adjustable and breaks down small. These are a must have for splitboarding, easily fit into or strap to a pack. I use mine ski touring and when out on the split. The tab adjustments are where it's at, I upgraded from a twistable Leki pole.
I got these poles for back country snowboarding, and summer backpacking if I have a heavy load. These poles are great and have excellent durability. Black diamond really made a great pole, for anything, but really for skiing or snowboarding. These collapse really small, especially for snowboarding this is important because you have to carry them down on your back. I'm sure these will hold up for a long time. And the FlickLock technology is amazing, and doesn't let the pole move at all. If you want a great pole for backcountry snowboarding get these, you wont be disappointed.
I love these poles. I use them for backcountry snowboarding, and they've yet to let me down. The only reason they get 4 stars is that the powder basket attachment method doesn't seem like it will survive repeated removal of the basket. It looks like the basket will eventually wear down enough that it won't stay on tight. Definitely a problem if you're planning on using the BD Flicklock Snow Saw with these poles. Other than that, they're great.
I use these for skiing and hiking and they work great. The baskets fell off every once in a while when I first got them, but I made sure to really compress the baskets into place and now they're no problem. I love having these collapsed in the back of my 4Runner along with my Lowa boots -- always ready for a hike or adventure.
The adjustment feature is neat if you plan on using these as both skiing and hiking poles since oftentimes you'll want different lengths for different activities. The locks are snug as a bug caught in a spider web.
which size?
i measured the poles i've been using for the
which size?
i measured the poles i've been using for the last 10 or more years (Life-Link Variant Approach), and they're pretty much 49" tall when fully extended. so i'm leaning towards the BD 125cm so that i can have the smallest possible poles when collapsed for the way down (my life-link's are 30.5" collapsed). are there any major advantages to having 6" more in length if i were to go with the 140cm?
I would say keep to what you are comfortable with, since if you get the longer option, you will most likely drop it down to what you are used to, and that extra will be wasted. If you feel like you need something a bit longer, than go for it, since packed down size is way less important that hike up comfort.
These are a necessity when you are trying to trek up a steep incline, or wedge your way between a couple pine trees on a slope. Also work for a couple of good tent stakes if you attached a cord to the tip and bury the pole a few feet deep.
It is clearly the design due to the taper of the piece. I would not try tightening to stop this or you will over stress the flicklock. It is just the way these are due to having tapered sections.
Yeah on this pole the bottom piece will slide around with 2inches of play, kind of annoying if you have them on you're pack a lot... I used these poles for a few seasons till i bent one of them somehow. Instead of these I got a set of BD Trail trekking poles last winter and they have none of this bottom piece sliding around. They are not a ski pole but the flicklocks are 4-season rated. They are also 3 ounces lighter than the expedition pole, and have a choice grip. These poles are in the "Hiking & camping" section under trekking poles
check em out here's the url: http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/BLD0413/Black-Diamond-Trail-Trekking-Pole.html
i went to REI and all of theirs seemed to do the same thing. so i would venture to guess it's normal, although it seems like a weird oversight to me. i guess maybe the bottom section of the poles just tapers too much for the clamp to be effective on that last couple of inches.
anyone reps/employees from black diamond on here that can confirm?
Very good poles, extremely light and compact. The locking mechanism is adequate, I think BD can improve a little there. My major complaint is with the basket. Upon installing, I felt like the plastic wore away a little when I screwed them in. That must have played a factor since the first day I used them one of the baskets came off as I was skiing back (luckily it held on the ascent).
Credit BD support however, I wrote them and got a replacement right away in the mail. I would probable give these poles 3 stars, but with support like that I had to give them extra credit!
These poles work great for backcountry skiing or boarding. They are lightweight, collapse down to a nice size, and are durable. Black Diamond always makes great stuff!
Versatile, strong, 3-section poles. I use my poles primarily for backcountry skiing and backpacking. The Flick-locks are the best in the industry, and are easily adjustable. Don't even consider twist-lock poles, you'll regret it! The only negative is that my 9-year-old pair of BD Probe Poles eventually wore to the point that one of the baskets would no longer stay put in heavy snow - and after a couple of new baskets I decided to buy these! Lesson? Don't change/remove your baskets if you don't have to, and you'll never have any complaints! Also, if you have any issues, simply email the reps at BD - they are extremely responsive and eager to help! Black Diamond stands by its products! Black Diamond products are fantastic!!
For whatever reason, I tend to be quite hard on poles. If I'm not snapping them in half at Sugar Bowl then I'm snapping the straps clean off or even wearing the grips smooth with my death-grip.
I bought these mainly because they can pack into my luggage case, which is very helpful for me. I found them very easy to adjust to the correct length, where they (mostly) stayed - they sometimes collapse when using them to push down on bindings to release. I also found that one of the tips cracked on day 2 of my trip, but I think that was my fault, and all poles I've had do this anyway.
I love the straps, they make for a much more comfortable fit in the hand than most others I've had, and they are easily adjustable.
Overall, recommended. They are just poles and do just what you'd expect.
I am 5'9" and bought these specifically for skinning with a splitboard. They are compact enough to even break apart and fit in my dakine heli pro pack. I have the 125 cm and just about max out the settings. They are extremely dependable and easy to adjust with the clip locks (forgoet those goofy screw locks!)
Love these poles! while skiing with young children my wife and I often swap using poles and going with out. These poles make it so we only have to have one set. They colapse small and will be great to strap to my pack for traversing steep country while backpacking especially when its wet!
I have been a fan of the FlickLock technology for a long time. These ski poles bring that into a light design with a well-designed strap system. I am 5'11" and bought the 125cm, and it's just barely tall enough for me, but it works. My husband is one inch taller than me and these poles are too short for him.
used these poles a couple times, they ripped a buckle off my pack while splitting down a tree section. soo make sure your pack ha ssolid straps for accessory strapping. but liked them alot. got another pair on there way. compact nnicely. strong durable. the wuick snap buckles work good and strong.
used these poles a couple times, they ripped a buckle off my pack while splitting down a tree section. soo make sure your pack ha ssolid straps for accessory strapping. but liked them alot. got another pair on there way. compact nnicely. strong durable. the wuick snap buckles work good and strong.
Very durable pole and extremely easy to adjust. The only improvement I would make is the basket attachment. They are threaded with plastic and they pop-off very easily. I haven't lost one yet but I reinforced them with duct tape just in case.
These are great poles. They collapse easily--even with gloves on. They are lightweight and very functional. Alpine skiing, ski-touring, backpacking/hiking--they work awesome in every kind of situation. Money well spent.
3 Comments Last Comment: March 15, 2010 by: Rose505bud
By: spencer j
December 2, 2009
so i already asked this question below, but not sure the answer was correct. mine, when fully collapsed, have about an inch or two of give when locked down completely down where the poles taper to their smallest point, even though they're locked, they slide up and down about an inch or two.
is this normal, do yours do that?
i went to REI and as far as i can tell, they all do that.
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By: Rose505bud
March 15, 2010
yup. one of mine does it, but not enough to worry about while strapped to my pack
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By: jim2544243
February 14, 2010
Yup, this is completely normal...haven't noticed this causing a problem though for me over the years.
Am on year 5 of my pair, have broken them a couple times, but can't blame anything on the quality of the poles.
Am a splitboarder and these are great since they collapse short and nicely fit on my back on the downhill.
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