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A lot of today's high performance, active-fit clothing looks a bit too slim to be really fashionable. Free-skiers and snowboarders whined. Arc'teryx listened. Designers gave the Sabre Pant a more generous cut so they would be a little more in touch with today's baggy fashions than many of the company's previous pants. The Sabre still has the technical features of the rest of the line; Gore-Tex waterproof breathable construction, thigh vents, and articulated knees. As a special topping, Arc'teryx added color-matched Keprotec instep patches to the pant's cuffs to add a heap of resiliency--never fear the ski-edge shreddage again.
Bottom Line:
Feeling good and looking good are no longer mutually exclusive.
Typically very little if any winter gear comes in during the spring. In fact they try and sell of the remainder of their winter stock throughout the summer. You should probably look around and see if you can find some elsewhere
I haven't worn them in the elements yet but they look bomb proof! Plus they fit me perfectly. At 6'6" and 230lbs I'm hard pressed to find a pant that fits my picky high standards of quality and cut.
These are amazing pants. I am a big guy,6'3" 290lbs. with really big thighs. The pants have tons of room. I have had 2 different TNF pants in recent years and they don't hold a candle to these as far as fit and warmth. I would recommend these to anyone. Especially anyone that has a bigger build.
I am 6'2 and weigh roughly 280 lbs. Big thighs and a 42
I am 6'2 and weigh roughly 280 lbs. Big thighs and a 42 inch waist. In process of dropping 20 to 30 lbs so debating xxl or xl. I would hate to buy and then shrink out of them. Suggestions (besides lose some weight)?
Roy, the fit on these runs a little big so if you lost the 30 pounds like you plan to you might be able to use the XL's. If they are a little snug that will give you more incentive to lose a few more pounds or you could simply return them.
I use these pants mainly for backcountry ski touring. Despite my tendancy to sweat buckets, they keep me warm, dry, and comfy. Perfect fit, not overly baggy, which I like. I added my own belt. Great looks too!
finally Arc'teryx is bringing some new school, freeride style to their line. I like a straight shell pant - no need for insulation in Tahoe. I was worried that the fleece lining was going to be too hot but it is super thin and does not over-insulate the pants. Just provides a little fuzzy comfort. Belt is lame but easy to remove and replace with whatever you want. Classic Arc'teryx bomber construction - weatherproof and zippers in the right places. Sweet
Just got these pants, I'm 5'8" tall stocky build, went for the medium, they are huge in the waist and the length... way too big, my old Arcteryx bibs are a large and fit near perfect... any suggestions on a pant for a stocky guy with short legs?
You could try the Arc'teryx Stingray pant, it's a bit more trim, more of a traditional Arc'teryx fit, and has waist adjusters built in. Or the Stinger bibs, those are some of my faves, and also come in a short inseam length, which would probably be the ideal fit for your described physique.
This pants rule in backcountry. They're so light, with awesome design and durability. In fact breathability is incredible, even in summer time when you need to reach snow it's very comfortable. Cleaning is also very simple. I am 5'10 and M size fit very good. Perfect pants!
go to the small dude, med will drag you down. i.m a 36, could have gone 34 but still an awesome pant. however, for us shorter types check your cuffs when stepping in1
This pair of pants is the third arcteryx item i have purchased for my adventures in the outdoors. I got the green color which is crazy so if your thinking its a mellow green its almost more of a teal. It has all of the bells and whistles you want in a pair of ski pants besides insulation, recco super breathable super waterproof warm and above all durable. The only complaint is that the hip vents dont havwe a mesh betweenthe outside and under the pants so snow can get through if you use them , i dont use them. I have boarded in these though the horrible winter weve had here and on the coldest day i still only wore boxers under them and i was toasty and i ride a lot of park and through all of the falls and abuse theyve taken it all . Yes they are expensive but they are the best pants ypull ever have and probably the last paur youll ever buy!
I thought that Arc'teryx offered tall versions of these pants,
I thought that Arc'teryx offered tall versions of these pants, yet I don't see any talls offered as a selection on the pulldown order menu. Is this simply because I have the wrong impression or does Backcountry does not carry the tall versions? Thanks in advance.
Dave, Thanks for your question. The Sabre pant from Arcteryx is available in a tall inseam, however backcountry.com does not stock that inseam length in this particular pant model from Arcteryx. I hope this is helpful for you.
Got these to use last season snowboarding and so have had about 2 seasons of use in them so far. These pants are fantastic including the quality and durability. No busted seams or anything, great range of motion (the articulated knees are great), and it's gore-tex so it's still waterproof.
I tend to get cold easily so I tend to layer up in these pants a bit more than most people would, especially in colder days. I don't know if it's just the pants but I've never been overly hot/cold in any condition wearing these which I guess is a testament about how easily you can dial in for your own use. The thigh vents are great too in order to dump any extra heat while going up those lifts.
The carbon color depicted on here is spot on. I'm about 5'6", ~120lbs and got a small. The built in belt let me dial in the waist. Length was a bit long (nothing I could do about that) but was fine once I booted up though they would catch and drag sometimes (thank got for the Keprotec instep patches). Roominess was the perfect amount for me compared to the majority of snowboarding pants out there that are sometimes just too ridiculously big.
These are the best pants I have ever worn. Roomy yet not cumbersome, light, breathable and waterproof. Are handling the exceptional amounts of snow getting puked out of the sky at Mt. Baker.... currently.
I am 5'11" 180lbs and wear a size 33/34 x 31 inch pant.
I am 5'11" 180lbs and wear a size 33/34 x 31 inch pant. Arc Teryx mediums generally seem a bit tight but the comments make it sound like these run large. Anyone right at the cusp between sizes have a recommendation made from experience.
I'm 6'2" and 190. I wear the mediums since the larges were HUGE. Make my flylow stash pants look tight. Waist is usually a 33 and inseam is 34. These are great -- not too short, not too tight.
Just got back from Utah and skied a variety of temperatures (unfortunately the conditions were constant...ice). They were warmer than my old pair of insulated Spyder pants while night skiing in 7 degree weather and perfectly comfortable during the days when the temp hovered near 40.
These are roomy. However if you wear a midlayer under you shells - go for the medium. If you typically wear just a baselyer you may get away with a small. If your not sure order both and return the size that doesn't fit to backcountry (best return policy in the business) just keep the tags attached.
I purchased the Sabre jacket earlier in the year and liked it so much I decided to go for the pants as well. I am a big fan of the Gore-Tex soft-shell with the light fleece lining. Do not consider it insulated but provides some extra comfort. Others may disagree but I don't consider these pants to be baggy. I would consider them a more of a looser fit in the lower part of the leg compared to other Arcteryx pants. In size I am 5'9" and wear a size 33" waist and the medium is a good fit for me. As others, one of the first things I did was to ditch the belt that comes delivered.
Waht colour exactly is the Quail Grey, it looks more like a beige
Waht colour exactly is the Quail Grey, it looks more like a beige in the photo. What size should I wear since I use on regular pants and jeans 32 x 30. I'm concerned that being a relaxed fit the M would be too big and roomy, specially because no kid anymore!!!
The Quail Grey Sabre pant is closer to a true grey in that it doesn't have the green hue that Beige indicates. For sizing you'd be a medium, but if you prefer a less relaxed fit with similar fabric and features, check the Stingray pant. The Stingray also has built in waist cinches to accommodate layers or tighten them up if you need to.
These pants replaced my old Arcteryx Scorpions (great pants), which had survived more than 150 days before the lower legs turned to tatters. I will compare the Sabre to its approximate predecessor, the Scorpion. Many of my feelings are already reported in other reviews here, e.g.: belt (lame, but not a problem - I use my own leather belt which works great); cuffs (unlike the Scorpion there is no cinch or closure button, which is a minus); Recco reflector, which both the Sabre and Scorpion have, is a must for me; thin felt liner is excellent (a bit less fuzzy than the Scorpion) and adds a surprising amount of insulation given its thinness. On a frigid 8 degree F, cloudy day I tried out the pants with only very thin long underwear. Though I should have had an extra medium layer, to my surprise I survived pretty well. Both pants breath very well, with a slight nod to the Sabre.
As usual with Arcteyx, the construction seems to be top notch. (Time will tell.) I didn't find these pants too baggy as some others did, in fact I really liked the fit. I'm a 34 inch length and the Sabre's length seemed the right size. The Kevlar patch is much better than the Scorpion, which had nothing! (Even so, the patch seems a bit small to me.) For the Scorpion, I had to use boot gaiters to protect the cuff area. I have never had ski pants that, like the Sabre, have holes in the tops of the gaiters. Will this ever lead to snow going up in the pant legs if I tumble at Mach 2 in 3 feet of snow? (I don't know.) Because I'm unsure how well the gaiter works on the Sabre, I'll be keeping my boot gaiters in my backpack for a while. (And they also help out on super cold days.) My other complaint is the pockets. When skiing they keep my stuff in a very comfortable position. But when riding the chair I found the lower pockets contents tend to slide off to the side so I ended up sitting on them. (The Scorpion had great pockets, but there were only two of them, on the thigh.) My solution is to put most of my stuff in the two upper pockets. It seems to me that the design of the pockets could be improved, but perhaps others don't have this problem.
I'm 6'2", 215lbs, 36" waist. I have sz: L in these pants. Length is perfect, but I do need to cinch up the waist with a belt. I replaced the belt as the supplied belt is crap. Awesome pants and not too baggy.
I'm sure these are well built, but these are way too baggy in my opinion, and that's coming from a snowboarder. I'm probably going to return and get a different style.
What size for the Sabre pant would you recommend? I'm 5'9"
What size for the Sabre pant would you recommend? I'm 5'9" and weigh 155lbs. I usually wear pants that are 30 length and 33 width. I currently have the Arc'teryx Sidewinders in MEDIUM, so I'm a bit unsure of what to order for the Sabres.
I'm sure these are well built, but these are way too baggy in my opinion, and that's coming from a snowboarder. I'm probably going to return and get a different style.
What color is Carbon Copy? Is it black or is it gray? It looks
What color is Carbon Copy? Is it black or is it gray? It looks gray when in contrast to the zippered pockets and the patches on the inside of the cuffs, but it is hard to tell on a computer monitor. Please let me know so I can get some pants ordered! Thanks
It is a black colour- just not your typical black. I would call it a muted black- so it has a touch of grey. The colour will also vary with the amount of light present. In very bright light it has a bit more greyish look to it, in normal to dim light it will look black. Hopefully this answers your question
That's the debate I wrestled with in my head while trying these on - which do I really want? As soft shell suggests, these are made of a very relaxed and supple fabric. They feel reasonably durable, but by touch alone, I can't imagine they'd stand up to the same abuse as your typical Performance Shell pant. Presumably they breathe considerably better though. The cut has been updated to a modern bagginess though visually they don't appear this way as the fabric hangs rather than crinkles. Personally, I think the seam design and fabric make these pants very visually appealing. Features are four diagonal zip pockets, zippered thigh vents, Recco reflector and a thin felt liner that I wish more shells had. Unfortunately there are a couple minor features that I think fall short of Arcteryx's stellar reputation: the waist has a dinky plastic belt buckle and the gaiter doesn't have a cinch or closure button. The kick patch feels pretty sturdy, but for whatever reason, there were some color fading spots on the kick patch even though the pant was brand new.
Two Questions: First, when will the sizes come in a small or
Two Questions: First, when will the sizes come in a small or medium for the Totem color?!?! I don't have the pants yet because noone has the sizes, and I really need to get riding! Secondly, I am 5'8" 130lbs 30x32ish pant size. What size will be better? Medium or a Small? I wanted to keep layering somewhat in mind. Although I really doubt I will ever have to wear anything than a light baselayer. Just let me know! Thanks! :)
Wore these for first time last weekend at Squaw in rain for two days. Completely dry underneath. And they look great. Love the pockets. They could ditch the built in belt but not a big deal. I am 5'10" 155lbs and the medium was perfect. Could not go to a large.
What sort of temperatures are these pants recommended for? Also,
What sort of temperatures are these pants recommended for? Also, the picture shows that the Carbon Copy (black) ones are missing a belt, just want to make sure they actually are there. Thanks.
These pants are lightly insulated (ie: they have a light fleece backing). The face fabric is only slightly heavier than most pro shell fabrics (510 vs 480 denier). It will be good for outdoor activities all winter long. As the temp goes above freezing you will barely need a base layer (in fact I usually use a non gore tex soft shell pant in these conditions anyways). Very comfy and roomy pants.
Carbon copy does come with the belt. its a mistake on arcteryx's part when photographing the pants.
I've been looking at getting these for this winter, but dont
I've been looking at getting these for this winter, but dont know what size to get. i usually wear 32X36 in pants and according to the sizing charts im not sure what size i would take.
Not sure I understand the reasoning behind all the complaints. These are Gore-Tex fabric pants, made in an Arc'teryx factory in China. The quality control is exactly the same as it would be if the factory were in Canada or the US or on Mars. If your beef is that "the Chinese are taking Canadian jobs away" or that Chinese pollution guidelines are lax, then at least you have some sort of anti-globalization or environmental leg to stand on, but your logic seems to state that a Chinese person can't stitch a pattern together with the same attention to detail as a Canadian. Yes, a lot of cheap stuff is made in China. Cheap shit comes from Canada too. Trust me, they don't make Hot Wheels and EZ-Bake Ovens in the same factory as Arc'teryx pants. And guess what? Some of the factory workers in the Vancouver sample factory ARE IN FACT CHINESE. So...are you racist, or just ignorant?
I'm having a very difficult time paying the kind of money they are asking for with a product made in China. I dont care how well they are made, made in China tells you how well they are made. Getting sick of all of this.
While the construction may be impeccable, I have a hard time believing a pair of Chinese made softshell pants with the Arc'teryx logo is worth $400. Though, they wouldn't even be worth that much if they were still made in Canada...
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