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Arc'teryx held nothing back when it developed the new Alpha SV Glove. Its designers tossed standard glove construction out and went back to the drawing board to re-design what a glove should be. With a lightweight, fully-articulated Gore-Tex Pro Shell outer glove and a removable Polartec Wind Pro liner, this glove blends protection, insulation, and breathability like no glove you've ever used before.
Arc'teryx integrated the glove's Gore-Tex Pro fabric right into the outer shell for a far lighter, smoother, more breathable glove than standard glove construction permits
Tri-Dex construction makes the glove articulate naturally
Smooth, seam-free fingertips let you pick things up normally without seams getting in the way
Tiny Gore seam tape and micro seam allowances minimize bulk and weight and increase breathability
The glove's Polartec Wind Pro liner deflects the wind completely, breathes perspiration away, and insulates with a soft, high-loft inner fleece face
Use Wind Pro liner on its own for spring skiing and touring
Leather outer shell reinforcements and one-handed drawcord round out the glove's features
Bottom Line:
It's an investment: ensure you'll never have cold, clammy, snow-soaked hands on an otherwise-awesome backcountry powder day.
These gloves are incredible. The dexterity is better than any other severe weather glove, you can pull the liner out and replace it with a heavier or lighter liner and still keep the shell, you can go without any liner for those hot spring days. They are super expensive, but they are so versatile its almost the only glove you need in your arsenal.
I've been searching for the perfect gloves for years. One that provides the perfect combination of Dexterity with warmth and breathability. I've tried numerous brand over the years and still find myself searching every year. Being a huge fan of "the Bird"- I was stoked to see them make a run at a better glove.
After pulling the trigger on these and the shock of the sticker price I recieved the gloves. Out of the box the gloves are bar none the most dexterous and comfortable on your hand! There is a definite WOW factor with these! The anatomical cut for every finger allows each finger to move with such ease. The seams are all flat and taped.
The inner liner follows the same pattern as the outer glove. It feels like a 100wt fleece- the seams have been sewn with flatlock seams. I cannot comment on the warmth of the glove yet- as there are pretty mild temps in the north east right now. I still may use my marmot ultimates (and their toasty primaloft inserts) when it gets super chilly in january though.
The wrist cinch is a neat idea. However my wrist cinch opens up any time it is hit (even with a light brushing). This is a bit annoying. Is it a design flaw or just a defective pair. Also there is no wrist strap as mentioned in a previous review. I have to admit that is a nice feature to have.
The pro shell fabric seems quite thin. I would have preferred a more burly face fabric used in order to handle abrasions better. I guess that would comprimise some of the breathability however.
Overall a phenominal glove. Its certainly the best out there on the market! there is still room for some improvement.....especially at this price point. Lastly, whatever you do- Do NOT let your wife know what you paid for these. I found out the hard way :0
For cold weather cycling I use these (see link) and I live in Montana. http://www.campmor.com/glacier-glove-perfect-curve-fleece-lined-neoprene-glove.shtml?source=CI&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=63483L
They would be one expensive pair of cycling gloves! you could cycle in them- but there are better choices for cycling. It will also depend on how cold it is where you bike and/or if you ride in the rain. Take a look at some of the cycling specific companies to see what they have. You dontwant something too bulky when riding and you want some grip on the fingers and palms.
I was so jazzed about using these gloves for skiing, I forgot that Arc'Teryx has a very strong technical slant in most of their high-end gear. While these gloves might be ideal for cold weather technical use, I think they fall a little short in a couple of areas for skiing/snowboarding.
The design maximizes ease of articulation at the expense, in my opinion, of toughness - not to say that these gloves are not well made. The fabric used on the back of the hand and the cuff, however, makes me nervous the edges on my skis or a little jagged piece of metal on my bindings might slice right through that wonderfuly expensive GoreTex Pro shell.
The leather looks like great quality, but most gloves at the top of the price range (Arc'Teryx is in a league of its own, here) have reinforcements on the palm and often on the fingers. Again, for technical use perhaps the gain in articulation by not having reinforcements outweighs loss of extra protection. For skiing . . . my gloves rarely last a season or two without taking serious abuse on the palms and fingers. I'd be nervous that the Arc'Teryx gloves wouldn't hold up. For $275, I'd like to get more than a season or two out of them before they start showing substantial wear. Who knows, maybe they'll do just fine (but I don't want to take that chance).
If money were no object, I'd probably use these gloves despite the percieved draw backs and simply replace them if they don't survive the abuse - they're really outstanding in many ways. Since that is not my reality, I returned these gloves and got the Black Diamond Guide gloves, which are substantially beefier and about $125 cheaper.
Its really going to depend on how warm your digits are when it gets cold and what type of activity you are using them for. THey are not the warmest glove out there. They are simply leather and gore tex with a mid weight fleece, Although they breathe exceptionally well). If your fingers and hands get cold easily- these are not the gloves for you. Not sure if this fully answers your question but hopefully it helps.
These gloves are by far and away the best gloves I've ever worn or owned-period. After reading a few of the reviews,I've come to realize that when people pay a lot of money for something,they'll find fault with it-or look for something that could be better. These gloves are just about as perfect a glove that you'll find for cold weather endeavors and adventures.They'll allow you to pick up a quarter off the ground without issue-but also keep your hands warm in -25F.The best 275 bucks I've spent. I just spent the past 4 days snowshoeing the Paul Smith's Wilderness area just outside Lake Placid,in the Adirondack Mountains.Temps as low as -25F and never above 5F,and my hands were warm and dry-a feat I did'nt think possible after digging a snow shelter.The way the outer layer of fabric is laminated to the Gore-Tex Pro Shell is nothing short of revolutionary.The best gloves ever. I think I should also mention that these gloves have a very easy to use and separate fleece inner liner that works well by itself in cold weather,but wearing both is so comfortable I can't see why you would want to just utilize the liner.I loaned these gloves to a buddy on a week off from snoeshoeing-he did not give them back until I went and got them!
"I've come to realize that when people pay a lot of money for something,they'll find fault with it-or look for something that could be better." That is so true. I often find when I pay a lot for something, it is because I have done research and it best fits my needs. Thank you for giving me further confirmation on how great these gloves are. Will be buying a pair this next winter. Hopefully they come out with new colors!
Thanks Logan.I'm glad I could help a bit.I've now worn my Alpha gloves at least 6 more snowshoe trips and snowmobiling almost daily(til the snow melted)and they performed exactly the way I expected-I'd never steer you wrong when it comes to throwing out good money-these are still far and away the best gloves I think I'll find-until Arc'teryx redesigns them and make them better.Definitely get them.You won't be at all disappointed.
So I decided to try these guys again, but noticed a couple more flaws.
Firstly, no dummy strap. That is just absurd on a $300 glove. Not cool.
Secondly, the wrist clench mechanism. Difficult to work with one hand. Why not make it simpler with a passive elastic or something more streamlined?
Thirdly and most importantly. Most of Arcteryx stuff seems to be made for thinner athletic types, but these glove would fit best on someone with shorter and fatter fingers. I hope next year they will make them more for long, skinny finger guys. IMO.
Also, it did make a lot of sense to me to have such a dexterous design for a big glove. I think it would awesome if they used this technology to make a light glove. Something for temps 15 F to 35F. On par with BD Punisher. Maybe a similar shell, but a thin, fixed liner. Damn, that would be a nice glove.
Arc'teryx just released the Vertical SV, another glove with this construction, but in a short cuff, with a velcro closure instead of the elastic. It's the same insulation value as the Alpha SV. http://www.backcountry.com/arcteryx-vertical-sv-glove
The Alpha SV here is the same one as last year, there is, however, a short cuff version called the Vertical SV, that uses the same construction in shell and liner, but has a wide velcro closure on the short cuff. It's designed to go under shell jacket cuffs. http://www.backcountry.com/arcteryx-vertical-sv-glove
Had these for about half a season - wanted to put them through some use before writing a review.
First off, yes they're crazy pricey (unless you get them on sale). However, a perfect pair of gloves are worth their weight in gold, especially if most snow gloves don't fit stubby fingers (like mine) well (I wear a cadet medium golf glove if that helps), and I've been looking (and settling) for quite a while.
Sizing, they are shorter than average in the finger length, which works great for me. However, the rough edges of the stitching on the inner glove can dig in to the webbing between your fingers if they're a tad small for you. Also the fingers of the shell are pretty wide in diameter, though I suppose that may have something to do with articulation and/or warmth.
Durability wise, they've held up fine. The leather color seems to have faded slightly (not really a big deal IMO - probably from the Spring sun), and the shell material shows no wear after deflecting a few branches at head level. The leather is _very_ supple, and I was a bit cautious about not holding my skis by the edges too firmly, but I haven't had any cuts in them so far.
Design - Sounds like I'm in the minority in liking that there's no idiot strap/leash, since I never used them on any of my previous gloves (I did a bit initially, but they just got annoying). Stays in line with Arc's minimalist design philosophy. The wrist cinch works, but could use a little bit more development - the strap's excess slack can flap around a bit when you're at speed - fairly minor though. The one-handed cinch and release at the cuff work wonderfully. The stiff cuff of the inner glove makes it easier to don the glove (never liked the fidgety cuff to cuff velcro solution of other gloves with removable liners). One thing that would be a nice improvement would be including something to hook the gloves together when you're not wearing them (like the little plastic clips every other glove has). I used a small carabiner on my pack through the cinch loops on the gloves as a fix, but a plastic thing only weighs a gram or two (and could be easily removed by the hardcore minimalists).
Dexterity and warmth - They are indeed very dextrous, though I do have trouble literally picking up a dime from a flat surface with them. Though with just the shell (and optionally a thin liner), yup - able to pick up a dime off my desk. I didn't find them super toasty in the mid-high teens (Fahrenheit), but it could've been due to other factors - will need to see next season. You do need to cinch down the cuffs well to maintain warmth, otherwise the warm air goes right out the back of the gloves. Windproofness worked well too - no gaps of cold felt when it was gusting at the peaks.
The gloves are suggested for skiing, but I think climbing would be a much better fit since the gloves are primarily ergonomic and not super tough. The only reason I'm taking a star off is that the price is too high in my mind, even for Arcterx. Will update later.
In the end I decided to return these and hold out for next year. I'm super excited for an upgraded version.
I wonder, has anyone tried these gloves for ice and mixed climbing
I wonder, has anyone tried these gloves for ice and mixed climbing yet? I wonder, wether they'll be sturdy enough. So far I take at least two pairs of gloves for winter climbing. The reason being that the outer gets sooner or later soaked by dripping water and the membrain - wether it be gore tex or something else - can't move the sweat accumulating on the inside out any longer. I'm curious if Arc'teryx solved this problem with the SV glove.
haven't ice climbed in them (it was 70f at my house yesterday!), but the idea with these was to eliminate as much seam and taping as possible, and use a laminated fabric package instead of stuffing a separate membrane in between the face and liner. This is drastically different from how any other glove is made, and the goal was to maximize breathability and dexterity. These things are pretty insulated, so if it's not very cold out, you may still run into a bit of vapor bottleneck, but that's when the thin gloves come out of the pack.
Like most people it seems, I'm doing four stars and not five because of cost.
Warmer and dryer and waaaaay more dexterous then my Hestra Seth Morrison gloves.
For anyone worried about the durability of Pro Shell its a non issue. I wear Pro Shell pants and jacket for Christmas tree harvest. Twelve hours a day of chainsaw use, machete, clippers, twine and throwing around trees. I've had two spots get damage: one was from barbed wire and the other was from consistently getting gas, diesel, oil and chainsaw lube on the right arm. It caused a few bubbles in the fabric which didnt affect performance.
Ive been using the same set of idiot leashes from an old pair of Dakine gloves for years, but I think these should come with a set. A rubber goggle scraper would be nice on the sideways ice pellet days.
On the shells and on the gloves I havent noticed any quality control issues. I havent seen anything better yet and I'm always looking.
Does any on think these gloves would be good for winter cycling
Does any on think these gloves would be good for winter cycling training sessions? I will not be doing much skiing in them, but I am looking for warm gloves to use while I ride my bike on long winter training rides.
There is only one choice for the best in winter cycling gloves. The Assos winter system pack. It is a liner, glove, and lobster claw shell. Top quality, about 75 bucks cheaper, and cut (fit) for cycling. They have close to zero bulk, are sufficiently warm, and breath well. For frame of reference I live in New England and cycle year-round.
I have to think these are total overkill for winter cycling. I'd suggest looking at the Venta SV glove-it's Windstopper so better breathability. The Venta is a much thinner glove, but very weather resistant, and great dexterity for shifting, braking, etc.I've worn Venta SV skiing in weather down to about 20F-works great when you're moving.
First off these are very well made gloves,very nice attention to detail and very comfortable and dextrous. I have chronically cold hands and must have a dozen pairs of gloves lying around so when I got these as a gift I was cautiously optimistic. I skied w/them for the first time this past Sat on a mild Feb day w/temp. about 25 F, and,... COLD hands. No warmer than my $25 HEAD gloves from Costco. So, I will be returning them and getting a great deal of money back to continue on my search.
Only after getting 20% off retail did I buy this glove. Immaculate construction, fit and feel. I was and still am blown away they did not come with idiot leashes. But my real problem is they are the coldest gauntlet type alpine glove I have ever worn. At first I thought it was old age creeping up on me but after using them on several days at Alta in differing mild weather conditions, a couple of days were in single digits but nothing brutal... my thumbs were numb from the get go. I finally sent an email to the "Bird" customer service asking if they had experienced any feedback about warmth issues. When I got a snippy response back stating their Alpha model isn't advertised as Arc'Teryx warmest glove and I should use a glove liner (which negates the tactile feel they tout) blew me away. And I couldn't get them back to REI for a $235 credit fast enough...which I then used to buy a pair of Mtn Hardware Bazuka & Mtn Hardware Medusa gloves (both on sale) and still pocketed $80.....way over priced and stone cold dissapointing.
These gloves are made to be the ultimate in breathable, waterproof. They are not the best ski gloves and are far from being the warmest. You would be far warmer with a 20 dollar mitten with heater inserts.
But on days with pouring rain, you will stay dry. I used to use heavy duty kitchen gloves in downpours - and these are obviously much better.
If you don't like to price, don't buy it. The price is not out of line with other extreme weather gear. But this glove is a unique product for a unique purpose. I am glad that it is not advertised as a high-end ski glove, and honestly, I would feel like a tool wearing these on the slopes most days.
Why would you feel like a tool wearing these. I wore these skiing and they are amazing. Probably the warmest gloves out there. Some people just don't like mittens and prefer gloves, I know I do. But I don't think there is warmer "glove" on the market (excluding heater gloves). All that matters to me is keeping my hands warm in extreme cold, and if you prefer gloves and you don't mind the price then this is probably the best choice.
I'll start by saying that I am a big fan of most Arcteryx gear, I have hardshell jackets, pants and many other items that have performed amazingly well for years and were worth every cent.I have a fairly normally proportioned hand (L) and these seemed too short and fat in the finger dept. The materials seem good quality and with the thickness of the liner I bet they would be very warm, dexterity is good for a glove of this thickness. On the negative side, the liner does not look like it would stand up to even very light use alone, I imagine you could shred it even holding ski/trekking poles and I don't know if the liners can be bought separate ? even if you can, with the goretex cuff they are going to cost. The gloves are made in China too which is disappointing for a $275 pair of gloves and raises quality questions in my mind.Thanks Backcountry for providing no hassle returns, I went with the MH Medusa glove instead for my winter ski/snowboard/alpine adventures it's half the price, better liner that you can use alone, similar waterproof technology.
still, brandon, 275 is way too much.I am a arcteryx lover and can agree with a lot of their stuff, but the price on these gloves and not to mention the retarted bullshit veilance crap, is just too much,$200 for them would make sense but almost $300 is pushing it too far, especialy if they are not made in Canada(which doesn't make that big of a difference)
I agree with JMH on this one. Is it me or Arcteryx completly missing their niche? I paid more simply of the "made in Canada" attention to detail. There are comparable quality products out there for less money. The Arcteryx difference was they were also made by people passionate about what their products were used for. Take these gloves for example great innovative passoinate approach total Arcteryx design and then overseas fabrication with no passion. The only motivation for me to spend the extra hundred bucks on these gloves is so the bird matches the bird on my coat. I own two Arcteryx chinese pieces a Gamma jacket and rho ltw boot base layer. The gamma quality on par with a Mountain Hardwear coatl I own. The design is Arcteryx but seams and QC not so much. The base layer awesome design again Arcteryx but the seams irritate the living hell out of me.
Brandon, thanks for your response. I'm sure at Arc'teryx you would like to think that fabrication outside of Canada does not automatically mean lower quality and everyone likes to make more money, sure, but here's the thing, in my experience the Arcteryx gear that's not made in Canada is clearly not the same and I'm not alone. Lots of people, myself included, picked up on Arcteryx brand about a decade ago for the innovation, outstanding quality and attention to detail, we accepted paying a bit (lot) more, but it was worth it for gear that could be used hard for a long time. Now you make most of your gear oversees and my impression as a long time customer is that it's now just the same as everyone else's "throwaway junk". Try making the 350 A harness in China and see how many people buy it !, I for one will be heading straight for Misty.
I tried on the Medium, my normal size, and thought they felt too short in the finger length, initially. What I found is that when my hand is in a natural "grip" position, the pattern accommodates the natural curve of my fingers and fits perfectly. To the China question, being made overseas doesn't automatically mean lower quality. Arc'teryx uses only the highest level of manufacture and quality isn't compromised, no matter where they are made.
There is not many things wrong with this glove, but the question everyone will ask is whether they are worth almost twice as much as the most expensive other glove on the market. In my view Arcteryx grossly overpriced them. These gloves are pretty good, but they are not twice as good as for example Hestra Heli, which are almost as dexterous, have a removable liner and a proven durability record (and more extensive leather coverage). And Arcteryx omitting a safety leash from a $250+ glove is just lame. If you paid that much money for the glove, you would hate to see it tumble down the slope or loose it on the chairlift. So, now you have to spend $20 for a pair of Hestra handcuffs, which brings the price of the combo to, what $300?
Where your wrong is... these are not designed for "resort skiiers". These are "severe" weather use. Your comparison to gloves that will let moisture through in a few hours, is laughable. A "resort skiier" can simply go inside with wet hands. Someone on a several day mountaineering ascent, cannot. This is the difference between coming back WITH hands or WITHOUT hands. Again, these are designed for extreme use. Not for someone that wants to look pretty apron a ski slope (but hey, they'll work there as well). I'm pretty sure it's worth the price for a person using them for their intended use.
Yes, and I regrettably sent them back. The bottom line is that they didn't provide 3x performance of the Hestra Heli. To be fair Heli is not 100% waterproof and will get soaked in about 3-4 hours in the rain; Arcteryx would still stay dry. Also, Alpha SV glove is squarely oriented towards backcountry skiers (which I am sure most of their testers are; however, most of their customers are resort skiers). If Arcteryx comes out with a resort model of this glove with thicker more durable leather, better cuff closure (the buckle they have there is a joke), and an "idiot" leash, I would consider buying it. The innovation is real and substantial, but the execution is not quite up to Arcteryx design standards. Maybe I should wait for the ThetaSV glove or a Sidewinder SV glove.
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