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4FRNT Skis VCT Alpine Ski - 2008 BCS
When 4FRNT built the VCT Alpine Ski, they built it to cross the bridge between backcountry touring and big-mountain freestyle boards—and they succeeded. The raised tail on Vincent Dorion's pro model ski is squared-off, so attaching touring skins is much easier, and 4FRNT added a fourth length option in this ski to divide the VCT line evenly between more maneuverable tour flex and big-mountain stiffness. Both light and heavy riders can find a match for any terrain—the 182cm and 189cm models are burly planks for the big lines and steep, open bowls of the West, while the 168cm and 175cm lengths are dialed for all-around backcountry and sub-treeline powder skiing anywhere. East-Coasters that are used to narrow trails and tight trees can pick up a shorter VCT and enjoy a maneuverable, bombproof ski that grips on Vermont's notorious frozen granular but still floats in hidden fluff stashes. The sweet graphics on the VCT are the work of fellow 4FRNT team skier and French Canadian, Charles Bedard.
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182 VCT - I Like this SKI
February 10, 2009
I demoed the 189 (or older 190?) last year and liked the way it skied so much I'm on a 182 this year and it has proven to be a really good ski. I wouldn't consider it as one ski quiver material, but this ski does really great in crud and powder. Although it carves smoothly on groomers, I don't care to ski a 104mm under foot ski on groomers. There's much better setups for ripping groomers. This is a light, quick, and stable ski that I find works very well equally in tight tree's and when charging on open lines...powder or crud. Should have mounted an AT setup on them...
December 30, 2008
Not much more i can say that Matthew Tabrys didn't say. I have Dynafit TLT Vertical FT 12 Bindings mounted on them and could't be happier so far. Beta- Day 1: @ Mt Snow with about a foot of fresh on top of boiler plate, good float and pretty good edge when it was needed. Day 2&3 @ Jay: the second day there was between 18-23 inches reported and had a blast on these things. Days 4&5 @ Iceface NY ( im sure those who know don't need the mts real name). It does not get any worse than this, 43 F and raining on top of blue ice in a lot of spots. I was still able to at least grab enough of an edge to stay in control. Day 4 was 32 F so everything froze over again covered buy sugary manmade ( I really hate the east at times). As miserable as it was these skis still held up the challenge. Bottom line is this is a pretty damm good ski that can handle the sh#t here on the east coast and then shine out west. See you guys out there in Feb :-)
A quickie about the 189's. The majority of my ski time is
A quickie about the 189's. The majority of my ski time is east of the mississippi, so i'm wondering how the mid-fat ish 108 waist will do on ice coast groomers and whatever backcountry fluff can be found at jay peak. The main reason I'm looking at the 189's is because i'm larger than average at 6'4 220 and wanted something longer. Thanks
December 24, 2008
Torsionally these are one of the more stable skis in this catagory and will perform fine an bullet proof. As for size, I say "right on" with the 189's.Add On: I traded my friend my 191 ANTs for his 182 VCTs. I love these skis. They are my everyday skis out here in Colorado. I use them on groomers, crud, ice, powder, trees, park and everything in between and they still handle awesome. The bases are bomb proof as well as the edges. These are the most fun, hard charging skis I've been on. I would say the 189 is the perfect length for a bit of everything. I really like tight trees and bumps so the 182 was a bit of a better choice for me.
By: Mario Chiarani
March 16, 2009
189 = ALL MOUNTAIN NECESSITY!
June 5, 2009
I got a pair of the 189cm's last season and let me tell you. They're perfect for an all mountain ski here in Utah. These things crush it in any condition from chopped up stuff, to fresh pow, and even on hardpack they perform surprisingly well. I'd definitely recommend these to anyone looking for a forgiving all mountain ski... with a little more preference to pow/crud, than groomers.
YES, YES, and YES!
April 24, 2009
I am a telemark skier, and honestly quite new to skiing altogether. I took the advice of a local ski shop owner in Crested Butte (Colorado Freeskier) and demo'd the 182's. I bought them and mounted them tele and haven't looked back. I am about to buy my second pair of them because I have simply overused them. At 5'10" and 165lbs, they are perfect for my all around needs. I am mostly searching for powder lines and drops in the backcountry, which in my opinion is the VCT's strength. They tour well, but it is on the way down these things really shine. I am a firm believer!
hey willie i know i said that that was my last qestion but i
hey willie i know i said that that was my last qestion but i have a few last clarifying question. the VCT 182cm will rip on groomer, crud etc. right? and they are a good all mountain ski right? i know i'm just second guessing myself but i'm done after this no matter what, which would you mark as the better all mountain free ride ski, the prophet or the VCT? In your opinion. And I know you said 182cm but just to make sure, 182cm for the VCT right?-thanx again my last one i promise. yeah i've been checkin up on where i ski at crystal mountain and there seems to be about 25 inches at the summit. not alot but hey its better then nothing. looks like it might be a slow winter up here :(
December 14, 2008
To be honest its a toss up between them, the prophet might have a slight edge on groomers, but as a freeride ski and in powder the vct would be better, I bought vct's so i think there better overall. go 182 it would be better overall. Its dumping at my house now, we are suppose to get 3 feet, i hope so, im getting tired off sking powder skis on groomers.- you have absolutely no idea how jelous i am right now. i'm goin up to whistler at christmas so it better be dumping up there. have a good season willie and thanx for the millionth time.
December 14, 2008
4FRNT Skis VCT Alpine Ski
April 14, 2009
Not a bad ski. Does everything pretty well. Fun when the snow is soft and will go through the crud.
Great backcountry freeride ski
March 26, 2009
This ski does backcountry and freeriding so well. it's got a wonderful flex pattern that floats really nicely in Duffy Lake Backcountry, but it's stiff enough to hold a hard line down choppy steep gnar. i have mine rigged with a pair of Fritschi FR + and it holds solidly on big lines, but the wood core in the ski is light enough for hour-long skins in the sidecountry. stellar ski for a pow day in bounds as well.
-williethank you so much for all your help i would be so lost
-williethank you so much for all your help i would be so lost with out it. thanks again-henry
no problem-- i love talking ski gear, HEY ITS SNOWING OUTSIDE---- maybe we will finally get some powder in the sierras.
March 20, 2009
This ski is a super rippin' all mountain ski! Skied really well in the park, dont be afraid of the width. Still soft enough to get those nasty butters in park and the pow. Give em' a shot, they wont let you down.
not for the high speed charger
March 23, 2009
GREAT SKI for any type of condition and awesome response and great in bumps and the flex is awesome. They just don't hold at high speeds very well. (Like a cruiser down regulator Johnson at the bird)
Good Pow Ski VCT 182
March 23, 2009
Great ski for powders conditions, stiff ski but you can make it work how you want it to.
-willielast questions. first by damp you mean what? and will
-willielast questions. first by damp you mean what? and will the 182cm VCT do as well on groomers/crud and at high speeds as the 189? but i take it both sizes will perform better on groomers/crud then a pair of 160 public enemies right (they chattered like crazy)? on my old public enemies and im not saying i did this alot but if i was feeling extra brave and found a landing with good amount of pow (cuz about 50% of the time i ate shit) i would ofton be tempted to throw down a back flip or something. wondering how much the extra weight (especially the VCT and its stiffer flex) is gona affect my ability do stuff like that and spins like a 360 or 540. which reminds me if im not mistaken the VCT isnt a full twintip, how much will that along with its more plank like shape affect riding landing witch? also was thinking of the marker jester for the helix, think it would be a good binding for the VCT? also what do you know about 4frnt bindings?
Hi henry-- by damp i mean smooth feel on hardpack with no chatter or bouncing around kind of like a hot knife in butter. the VCT is not as stiff as the P.E and belive it or not very close in weight to your P.E's, Yes they are a tru full twin-tip with equel ht. tip and tail, the decription above is from the first year it came out when the tail was slighty squared off to put on skins because it was used greatly as a backcountry ski because it is so light. The VCT is desinged so the longer the length the wider the turn radius and more plankey it gets, so the 189 would be for tru big mountain sking areas like squaw or mammoth or jackson hole. they ski switch great you will have no problem. the jester would be the perfect binding on these, keep them nice and light. 4frnt bindings are made by tyrolia and are good , but the jester would be better IMO, if you get these vct's the midsole mounting line is 6mm back from center, mount at 4-5cm back from center for better switch riding. have fun.
Decent ski, geared more for powder
March 23, 2009
The VCT's were a fun ski for the few days that I skied them in powder. They float well and have enough flex to be maneuverable. However, on piste they are a bit too straight and need more sidecut. They don't respond as well as other skis with similar dimensions.
March 16, 2009
Most fun skis I've been on. Rip everything on the mountain. Be ready to charge and push yourself and these skis will perform to their limit. They'll open up down steep faces and rip big GS turns and then go into the bumps or trees and fly like John Mosley's mogul skis (well not exactly but you can get them to turn pretty fast).
Overall a sick ski for everything.
Such a fun ski!
March 19, 2009
I love this ski, I use this ski in all conditions, anything from crud to deep pow they work perfect. I suggest this to anyone looking for a good all-mountain/pow ski. You can't even tell they are 104 underfoot on the groomers, so much fun!
Hi again willie. it seems like evry time you answer a question
Hi again willie. it seems like evry time you answer a question of mine it gives me another. so i was wondering if you could quickly tell me which ski (helix of VCT) performes better on groomers, crud, and ice? which is better in pow and between trees and which is more of a free ride ski? also wondering which one is lighter and wondering which is the softest?
the vct imo is a better groomer/crud ski, it is a bit stiffer and heavier then the helix so it holds an edge better also it skis damper,as for pow they are about the same, the vct has little camber and a soft tip so it floats up and turns quick in powder, the helix is livlier do to the bambo core and may feel more snappy and quick because of that, Which ski will hold up better over time def. the vct it will last for years and years and years. They both are good freeride skis but you will be able to charge harder on the vct, if you go vct get the 182 the 189 would be to much. 4frnt is a awesome co. and really stands behind there skis, plus sweet topsheets. liberty had problems with ski duribility a few years back, but has gotten it together since then. For your size and what you want to do i would go vct. better overall/versital ski.
Merebea Danforth x4236
March 20, 2009
I skied the 4FRNT VCT for a day, and they seemed like perfectly good skis. They're a good width for an everyday ski for out west, and they handled well. Personally, I prefer a stiffer ski, and these felt kind of floppy, especially at higher speeds. My current everyday ski is the '07-'08 Legend Pro Rider, and I'll be sticking with them as I prefer their straighter side cut and stiffness.
March 20, 2009
I found these skis to be adequate, but I was not blown away by them. With so many skis out there, I think a ski needs to excel in one direction. Should it be for powder, park or all mountain; these skis are good, not great for all concerns. 104 in the waist is a wash for me, I float just as well with 95 underfoot, but lose performance that I get with a 10mm skinnier ski. They work well for everything I reckon, but don't knock my socks off at all.
Likes to go straight.
February 13, 2009
I'm a 6'4" 160 x-racer and got the 189's looking for a big burly ski after having 183 gots that were just too soft/small. These things haul. Even on groomers. Hauling ass at alyeska in -10 making super g turns felt amazing. Took them home to Juneau AK where we had some awesome snow conditions in December. Ski them a couple days in 6-12". They performed pretty damn well. Only a few complaints. Maybe it's just getting used to the large amount of tail they have (got them mounted at suggested), but managed to flip over the handlebars twice on these when hitting into some deep pockets at high speeds. Also, didn't get much energy out of them when arcing in deep snow, although I didn't get a chance to ski them on anything super open. Mostly tree skiing. Speeking of trees, maybe it's just me, but I had a hard time swinging these bad boys around in tight spots. What normally would have been a cool 5 or 6 turn line ended up as a straightline through the middle of the chute I was looking at. But they had no problem with that. Super stable. Have yet to get any tip flail or chatter. So if your looking for something to haul serious ass on these are the ticket. Would have no qualms gettin out of a heli in AK with them. But do have some reservations dropping into really tight tree pillow lines. These skis will ride you if yor not careful.
-for willieI believe I have finally narrowed it down. The prophet
-for willieI believe I have finally narrowed it down. The prophet 100 and scott p4 are both out. I've been checkin VCT and i'm liking what i see. both it and the liberty helix seem more like freestyle skis. I think I've got the helix down. It's light, poppie, great in pow and you can bring it in the trees. But it also handles well on groomers, crude etc. and high speeds. So I'm wondering again how the VCT stands next to helix. it seems like a slightly lighter ski and how it is as an all mountain ski and weather it can be a quiver of one like the helix? Also curious how boht handle park and clifs? O and i was looking at the salomon gun and do you think u could compare it to the skis above. looks like its a greate off piste pow ski. wondering how it does on groomers, crud etc. and in park. i knoe this is alot of questions so whatever you get to i really apprecitae. -sorry if im getting on your nerves w/all these ?
Hi henry-- I own both a pair of guns and vct's, The guns are fun in soft snow and up to knee deep pow they are a little narrow for really deep days, the downfall of them is that they HATE hard/icey conditions, they don't hold an edge and chatter really bad because of their foam core, ok in the park but a little heavy, also like all salomons they have weak bases. The VCT is one of my all time favorite skis, rips anything hard or soft conditions, floats well in powder up to say thigh deep and super stable and damp, solid bulletproof constuction. The only reason i now ski bacon's over these is because i like the feel of a fatter ski. VCT's are awesome but expensive. Also very fun in the park for a fat ski pretty light. also have you considered the k2 obseths, a little fatter with some rocker to make them floatey and quick.-willie you never cease to amaze me. thanx for the help
182 vct - great one ski quiver
December 29, 2008
I have these skis in 182 and they rip. These skis don't do anything exceptionally well, but they do everything great. Like making gs turns at high speeds, these are for you. Skis are super stable, fairly quick edge to edge, and have great edge hold. Like skiing pow, these are for you. at 129 in the tip and 104 underfoot you will get great float in the deep. Looking for a backcountry ski, this ski is for you. Relatively lightweight so great for touring, and with its twin tip, it is great for skiing/landing switch off kickers.
Very durable bases, sweet artwork on the topsheet, and even good in the bumps and trees.
Great ski for any and every condition.
great BC ski
December 9, 2008
these boards are really great for a backcountry setup. they're light, fat and really durable. i've got them mounted with a pair of freerides and they so much fun in the pow pow, and really good for sidecountry skiing at whistler. if you are going with a backcountry setup, i'd suggest moving the bindings pretty far back. mine feel like they ski center most of the time.
gotama knock off
December 15, 2008
I skied the 189's in early December at Alta for the day. I wasn't really that into them - they ski like a gotama knock-off. The only difference, is that the side cut on these felt slightly funky on the groomers - it felt like the tails always wanted to hook. In the crud - this "hooking" sensations was not appreciated.
In terms of construction - the pair I skied were falling apart after a season of use. The top sheet was coming apart and the ski felt dead/skied out.
I love the gotama's, and because these things are close to the gotama's i have to give these a couple of stars. But, unless you can get these for cheap - I would go with gotama's if you are looking at these skis.
Excellent ski! A quiver of one!
November 26, 2008
Well, what can I say that has not already been said! This ski is great! As excellent on groomers and hardpack as a 100+ waisted ski can be, excellent in the chop and crud, and it tears apart any sort of powder you can throw at it. So far I have had it in a variety of situations and cannot say enough good about it. I also aired off a small wind pillow only to land in a small rock field. While the bases definetly needed a tune afterwards, there were NO core shots and the edges took the abuse like a champ! After the tune, the looked and skied like new! One thing that I don't like about them is they are a little planky feeling, though this might be due to my mount point (on the recommended line). All in all, if you are looking for ONE ski to do it all, the VCT is the ticket! They ski a little short, so, go up a size if you plan on using them in soft snow. They are pretty responsive edge to edge for a 100+ ski, but, still retain float!
It doesn't get much better than the VCT!
December 3, 2008
these ski's are a lot of fun. I have only used them on groomers so far and was surprised how well they did. Felt good, went up on edge very easily, felt very stable at speed and blasted through the crud very well. One thing I noticed with them is that you have to stay pretty aggressive with them or they will start to toss you around a bit. They are definitely worth checking out, a lot of fun!
Your One Quiver Tool of Choice
August 13, 2008
I rocked the 182s for a majority of the season last year and they do it all. They are super stable and light. If you spend most of your time in the pow, hit up the park occasionally and can only afford one ski, here it is.
A Cool Ski
December 9, 2008
I took these skis out at the Bird for a day of whatever I could find for soft snow skiing, and I wasnt too impressed, the ski has a pretty center heavy weight to it, and also the flex is just not there, about a med.flex in my book. They def killed it on the groomers and were super fast, but off the trail they seemed pretty tough to turn (might be because they bindings were pretty close to center) weight of these skis helped them charge the crud, weight can take you for a ride if your not paying attention, ski them, don't let them ski you, not a huge ski compared to the boats out there now, but big enough for pow and fun!
Steep and deep killer
September 30, 2008
These ski's kill the backcountry, there fat, soft, and love to go fast. They charge through pretty much anything that you can throw at them. super fun and bomb proof.
- 168cm, 175cm, 182cm, 189cm
- [168cm] 124 / 100 / 116mm; [175, 182cm] 129 / 104 / 121mm; [189cm] 134 / 108 / 126mm
- Turn Radius:
- [168cm] 25m; [182cm] 27.6m
- Top Sheet:
- Core Material:
- MEGA block wood
- Base Material:
- Sintered 2000
- Integrated Binding System:
- Binding Included:
- [182cm] 4lb 4oz (1950g)
- Recommended Use:
- Backcountry touring, gate-accessed sidecountry, all-mountain freeride
- 1 Year