2009 Model No Longer Available
4FRNT Skis MSP Ski - 2009 BCS
Designed to pillage freshies in the morning, own the park in the afternoon, then slay the bumped out groomers before heading in for a cold one, the 4FRNT MSP Ski is the go-anywhere, do-it-all stick for any day at the resort. Created by 4FRNT founder Matt Sterbenz, the MSP is the benchmark quiver-of-one ski.
- Dual Radius Sidecut gives a slightly directional shape for balance between stability and easy turn initiation
- X4 Dampening System uses laminated elastometric rubber foil for an extra smooth ride
- Fully wrapped edges added durability for season after season of abuse
- MEGAwood core for smooth flex and energetic pop
- Winner of 2010 Skiing Magazine Best in Test and Powder Magazine Skierís Choice
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Great All Around Ski
August 24, 2011
Used this on the east cost and out west. Great for all but the deepest pow and the hardest hard pack ice. GO anywhere and charge everywhere.
Firstly, what does having a harder, less forgiving ski mean? Secondly,
Firstly, what does having a harder, less forgiving ski mean?
Secondly, I've seen reviews saying that these skis are bad in the crud, yet others say that their lightness is good. I find that heavy skis make me feel like a freight train in park, a train in the wet powder and a train in tree runs, in that turning is difficult. Wouldn't lighter skis be better for in the crud?
I'm very lightweight for my height (6 foot, 123 pounds), and I don't have big muscles. I've been using rental skis up until now, and I do whistler BC blacks with relative ease, but the whistler double blacks (smaller mountain double blacks are easy) are challenging. I'm looking to upgrade from these beginner-intermediate skis to some all-mountain twin tips. I do tree runs, moguls, and pretty much everything. I'm also do park. However, I only spend 1/4th of my time at whistler and the rest at the local mountains, so I get a lot of cruddy conditions and not much powder.
November 6, 2011
Lots of questions there:
1. A stiffer ski will hold a better edge on hard snow, will blow through crud and will have more rebound. Generally, more appropriate for a strong expert skier.
2. Light skis are great for their maneuverability and ease of use, but they will have a tendency to bounce around in variable or cruddy conditions, which can make them difficult to control.
3. You've got quite a conundrum if your measurements are not a joke (you are one skinny person). Even at that height, you probably want a lighter ski given your light weight and given that you indicate you have had difficulty with heavy skis in the past.
4. So, look for a lighter ski with some length. This is likely a good choice for you.
By: Jamie Preston
November 8, 2011
4FRNT Skis MSP Ski
January 19, 2010
Although I am a huge 4FRNT fan and have put a bunch of days on my VCTs, I didn't really like the MSP. I felt like it was no better at anything than the wider VCT, while being significantly worse in deeper snow. The ski didn't want to turn very quickly for me and I felt like they wanted to hook a bit in soft snow. The ski does great when you're looking to get in the air, but no better than its fatter cousins.
I am 5ft 7" 150lbs 40 year old guy, I am an ex-world cup
I am 5ft 7" 150lbs 40 year old guy, I am an ex-world cup mogul skier, never used the 4FRNT skis but can't decide between the 181 and 187cm. I still ski the bumps but ski a lot of groomers to these days flying down doing GS turns. If I don't get this ski I am looking at the Salomon Sentinel 184cm. Look for some feedback gals and guys.
September 1, 2011
neither, both are way to big for you. 169 or 174 would be more suitable for you.
October 18, 2011
Andrew "Darwin" Welsh
August 8, 2011
Just ordered these, bringing winter a bit closer August!
is the 4frnt msp 2010 any different than 2009 other than gra
is the 4frnt msp 2010 any different than 2009 other than graffics?
By: keith lagnese
January 18, 2010
i'm pretty sure the construction on these doesn't change for this year's. I wouldn't hold that to be 100% certain, but 4FRNT's all mountain skis generally use the same materials and tech
By: Colin McPhillips
April 4, 2010
Good, but the VCT's were better.
April 27, 2010
Was great on groomed terrain, park, and bumps, but had to do an awful lot of work to get these around through crud and wet powder. The VCT and VCT Turbo are good alternatives that do everything the MSP does, but also handle off-piste stuff really well.
I ski around Tahoe, though. These might be great for an east-coast advanced skier.
Another disclaimer is that I'm 6'2" and 205 lbs with strong legs so maneuvering heavier skis (like the VCT) is a non-issue for me.
Could a beginning skier be able to ride this ski, and then really
Could a beginning skier be able to ride this ski, and then really improve?
I'm trying to find my friend a ski that he can use for 4+ years, and by then he will be a good, advanced skier by then.
By: William richmond
January 2, 2010
The MSP isn't a very forgiving ski. It's stiff and meant for guys who ride hard all day. Your friend could learn on it- it would be fine if he thinks he can handle it at the start, and it would be a good ski to progress with his level with. However, I would recommend a softer more forgiving ski. The Rossignol S5 would be an excellent option, as would the Line Blend. Both those skis have a forgiving flex and nose shape, but are an excellent ski for longevity and versatility. Also, check out the MR. from bluehouseskis.
They're similar in dimensions and flex, too, and are about $270 new from their website, bluehouseskis.com. If you're in SLC you can find them at Straight Line Ski Shop below the U of U, by Gandolfos.
By: Jack Wizo
January 2, 2010
February 2, 2010
I'm not much of a park skier but when there's not much else to do I like to play around a bit. This past weekend I did my first 540, nothin special but hey not too shabby in my mind, and these guys took me there. Not much I can say other than I'm happy
How forgiving is this ski?
How forgiving is this ski?
By: William richmond
January 2, 2010
December 27, 2009
I've used the MSP's everywhere from threes in the park to carving groomers to shredding glades. They rip on all terrain (as the description clearly states), they're light, and the graphics are sexy. Not very fat but just enough girth for the flurries we get here in the Northeast.
The only reason for my giving 4 stars instead of 5 is because I'm heading in the direction of more powder skiing and less groomed. While the 83mm waist (161 length) makes less-than-ideal powder performance, it can still be done. Just kick up the throttle to high speed, and you're good.
What bindings go well with this ski? I'm an aggressive (expert)
What bindings go well with this ski? I'm an aggressive (expert) skier and I like to open it up on the groomers when I'm doing GS turns. Any suggestions?
November 29, 2009
this is the binding i would suggest. this binding will hold you in the best, and it's light. the "L" break size will fit over this ski.
By: Sammy D
November 29, 2009
the sh!t ma
November 15, 2009
I had the 08 model;I havent been aggressively riding for that long, but these are some serious sticks. Compared to my older armadas, these boards rip. They are perfect for the not-too-deep fresh dusting mornings, but i wouldnt personally recommend for the back country. The flex is a little less than id like for some of the steeper pitches, but tracks like magic on the groomers and crud. Great northwest ski, can handle all the 'crete the pacific throws at you when others are moaning in tree wells. The only problem is the skis are a bit on the lighter side, so if youre trying to get up to GS speeds they get a little randy on you - but then again the weight is perfect for all the technical tree skiing you need to do.
March 6, 2010
These skis are adequete, yet they lack groomer ability. try the p90s for a similar yet better ski
4 (FRNT) You East Coasters
September 18, 2010
Definitely not a one ski quiver but what it does it does very well. Pretty stiff underfoot but softer tips and tails make them a joy in the terrain park, and they shred groomers pretty well with no chatter, edge wears away pretty quick and the top sheet chips away over time, nothing that damages the ski to much but definitely ruins your graphics, guess this is what we get for sandwich construction though.
The thin waist doesn't do much if you get a fresh dump and tends to bog you down. Overall I really enjoyed skiing these out on the east coast, super playful, supportive in the park, great on groomers and hold their own on vertical skating rinks. Did alright out west on groomers but struggled in the crud and anything over ankle deep (obviously). I would buy these again but only if I moved back east. They just don't get it done out west.
Need an everyday ski
August 24, 2010
So everyone here keeps bashing on this ski no matter how much all the legit magazines and testers talk it up. I can understand why you wouldnt want to use them in deep snow(Not the greatest waist on them) but I'm looking for a ski to ride park in all day and ride the whole mountain on days when I wake up and theres not freshy snow out there. I got a pair of Bibby's so I'm covered in the deep snow. All i want to know is if this is the ski that I am gonna want to ride every day. Take in mind im a big kid that rides hard so I like a stiffer ski. That chatterin shits not for me. (Dont mind the star rating had to pick something.)
4FRNT MSP 187
March 25, 2010
havent even shred the gnar yet on these babies and they are ridonculous. ridin the 187cm. and first off their way lighter than you would assume for the waist, head n tail. second the graphics are 100 times better than you would think from the pictures. these things shred it hard whether its backcountry boooooters or session' the park, nikin rails or stayin steezy on boxs. they handle better than most because of the winder waist. i have a pair of coreupt skis and these things are better in the pipe than any ski ive rode on. id recommend these skis go to a more advanced guy, but whatever floats your boat mayne. good skis, 4frnt we love you, shout out to CR JOHNSON, RIDIN FOR YOU FOREVER BABE
- 161cm, 171cm, 181cm, 187cm
- [161cm] 103 / 83 / 99mm; [171cm] 114 / 87 / 105mm; [181cm] 122 / 92 / 112mm ; [187cm] 128 / 96 / 117mm
- Turn Radius:
- Core Material:
- MEGAblock wood
- Sintered 2000
- Binding System:
- Binding Included:
- Recommended Binding:
- Any alpine binding
- [161cm] 3lb 5oz (1500g); [171cm] 3lb 13oz (1700g); [181cm] 4lb 5oz (2000g); [187cm] 4lb 14oz (2087g) per ski
- Recommended Use:
- All-mountain skiing
- Manufacturer Warranty:
- 1 Year